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XfireZ51 06-19-2017 04:51 PM

Sooty #7
 
Recently, I started experiencing a case of gray/blackish exhaust exiting the rear. Motor no breaking up. And at first I chalked it up to car sitting around during the winter. Blowing out some carbon. But it has continued. But only when I go WOT.
I pulled some plugs for a compression check and #7 was not in good shape. It was pretty black and sooty. I replaced the plugs and did about 700miles to MI this weekend. Car ran great, ~ 24-25mpg. Pulled new #7 plug and again sooty.
Checking plug wire and injectors w engine hot:

Injectors (primary/secondary) both check out at ~15ohms HoT.
Also checked plug wire resistance thru coil HOT, 14Kohms end to end. Same as other
cylinder pairs.
#7 also tested out at 220psi which put it a bit below the 228psi average for the 8 cylinders.
Compression was:
Lft Rgt
235 235
210 230
215 245
220 240

DRM500RUBYZR-1 06-19-2017 07:58 PM

Re: Sooty #7
 
While the injector tested good electrically, I am very suspicious of it's performance.
Classic symptoms of an overly rich condition, and specific to one cylinder.
If spark is sound, which your observations suggest, then an injector pouring fuel would be a logical suspect.
Good luck and keep us posted!
:cheers:
Marty

Ccmano 06-19-2017 08:51 PM

Re: Sooty #7
 
There are two kinds of soot. Soot from running too rich, aka a leaking injector. And then there's soot from excess oil in the cylinder, which could be a ring, valve guide, gasket or porous head issue. Highest probability is the injector. Resistance, as was pointed out, is irrelevant when leaking.

Do you have a photo of the plug and the soot?
H

Dynomite 06-19-2017 08:59 PM

Re: Sooty #7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM500RUBYZR-1 (Post 263515)
While the injector tested good electrically, I am very suspicious of it's performance.
Classic symptoms of an overly rich condition, and specific to one cylinder.
If spark is sound, which your observations suggest, then an injector pouring fuel would be a logical suspect.
Good luck and keep us posted!
:cheers:
Marty

Concur :thumbsup:

I get a bit better fuel mileage (26-28) sixth gear on highway....and have always had compression around 220 + or - 5 lbs. Your compression seems to be from 210 to 245 or 35 lbs difference. I run Haibeck 91 Octane Chips in ALL ZR-1s. Anything specific to one cylinder suggests an issue albeit your #3 is the lowest compression and your range of compressions is not what I would expect.

XfireZ51 06-19-2017 09:49 PM

Re: Sooty #7
 
Valve timing could also be a source of lower numbers on the Driver Side v Passenger Side.

XfireZ51 06-19-2017 10:02 PM

Re: Sooty #7
 
So here's the #7 plug. BTW, rear exhaust tips were also sooty.

Ccmano 06-19-2017 11:18 PM

Re: Sooty #7
 
Hmm... crusty might be a better description. That could be oil. My first impression was actually coolant in the combustion chamber with that white crusty stuff but oil can look like that too in early stages. It's probably not fuel.
H

jss06c6 06-20-2017 06:32 AM

Re: Sooty #7
 
Dom,

Are all other plugs normal? Have you checked the PCV? Valve guide leaking? Hard to think that you have piston ring issues in only one cylinder. Anyone ever tried to get a bore scope inside an LT-5 to check piston & cylinder wall?

Hope this is something simple!

Steve

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XfireZ51 06-20-2017 07:50 AM

Re: Sooty #7
 
There is an oil consumption issue going on. It accelerates when running at higher rpms. Marc and I discussed it at BG. Marc has a thought that it may be due to a mismatch between cylinder heads and injector housing regarding the restriction of crankcase pressure. The car will be going to Dr. Politsidistein shortly where he'll be looking up the exhaust, checking cylinder heads, and injector housing matchup.

jss06c6 06-20-2017 08:36 AM

Re: Sooty #7
 
Watching closely to learn!

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