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taximan 12-05-2013 08:27 AM

2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
Sounds like the General is bringing out the 2015 supercar as a Z06. Corvette engineering has stated they will be doing only a single one off super car version of the C7.

Is this good or bad for future value of our C4 ZR1s ?


2015 Corvette Z06 to be shown at January’s Detroit Auto Show

by Mitch Talley on December 4, 2013

Well, the moment [COLOR=#00aef0 !important][COLOR=#00aef0 !important]Corvette[/COLOR][/COLOR] enthusiasts have been eagerly awaiting is nearly here.
Chevrolet announced today that the 2015 [COLOR=#00aef0 !important][COLOR=#00aef0 !important]Corvette [COLOR=#00aef0 !important]Z06[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] will be unveiled to the public in January at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit, the same place where the 2014 [COLOR=#00aef0 !important][COLOR=#00aef0 !important]Corvette [COLOR=#00aef0 !important]Stingray[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] first saw the light of day a year earlier.

Chevy released a photo showing a much larger front fender vent on the Z06 and a partial view of the wheel, but we’ll have to wait a few more weeks to see how the complete package looks.
Click here to see a larger version of Corvette Z06 teaser image.
Nevertheless, in a press release, Chevrolet did call the Z06 “the most track-capable Corvette ever, designed to deliver supercar levels of performance through unique powertrain, chassis, and aerodynamic features.”
Interestingly, that same release noted that the 2015 Z06 – slated to enter production in late 2014 – will complete Chevrolet’s performance car lineup that also will include the Corvette Stingray Convertible, Camaro Z/28, and SS sedan.
Does that mean that the Z06 will be the ultimate C7, or will a [COLOR=#00aef0 !important][COLOR=#00aef0 !important]ZR1[/COLOR][/COLOR] enter the picture later?
Regardless, Chevy can already boast of being America’s favorite performance car brand, according to Alan Batey, senior vice president, Global Chevrolet, “and for 2014 we are going to offer enthusiasts more choices than ever before. No other manufacturer will be able to match the breath of performance cars from Chevrolet.”
Consumers are definitely taking note of the work by Chevrolet’s engineers. The automaker has sold one out of every four performance cars in the U.S. in 2013, with the Corvette and Camaro both leading their segments.
The Corvette – despite seeing production shut down for six months while the assembly plant in Bowling Green switched over to production of the C7 – has seen sales jump 229 percent year-over-year and outsold its closest competitor, the Porsche 911, for the first 11 months of 2013.
Likewise, little brother Camaro also whipped its traditional foe, the Ford Mustang, during the same period, outselling it by 10,000 units in retail sales. That puts the Camaro on track to be the best-selling sports car in America for the fourth straight year.
Chevy expects its performance-car domination to do nothing but increase in 2014 with the first full calendar year of sales of the 2014 Chevrolet SS sedan, the first full year of sales of the 2014 Corvette Stingray Convertible, the arrival of the most track-capable Camaro ever with the Z/28 coming in the second quarter of the year, and the debut of the 2015 Corvette Z06 late in the year.
It’s definitely a good time to be a performance car enthusiast in the United States.

Source:
GM

XfireZ51 12-05-2013 08:54 AM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
I don't believe they won't do a ZR1. The C6ZR really raised the Corvette brand in the sports car world. It struck a chord with the younger crowd as well, especially since they seem to be the ones that recognize the LT-5. Or they are incredulous when they see a DOHC motor sitting in a Corvette. So I think the ZR1 moniker has produced a real halo effect as the ULTIMATE Corvette and Ultimate American sports car. They trademarked LT-5. Who knows what that brings.

Paul Workman 12-05-2013 09:05 AM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
Yeah. I had the same reaction/questions too. However, the C6 ZO6 carried on for, what, 3(?) years before the C6 ZR1 came out in 2009? Could be a C7 ZR1 is on the drawing boards - waiting in part to see what wrinkles might need addressing in the C7 Z before going into production.

Time will tell, I recon. But, really...If Chevrolet were really serious about building a world beater again, would a front engine, push-rod car be the answer??:o

taximan 12-05-2013 09:12 AM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 189843)
I don't believe they won't do a ZR1. The C6ZR really raised the Corvette brand in the sports car world. It struck a chord with the younger crowd as well, especially since they seem to be the ones that recognize the LT-5. Or they are incredulous when they see a DOHC motor sitting in a Corvette. So I think the ZR1 moniker has produced a real halo effect as the ULTIMATE Corvette and Ultimate American sports car. They trademarked LT-5. Who knows what that brings.



Dont discount the possibly that the new engine in the 2015 Z06 is an LT5.

Paul Workman 12-05-2013 09:15 AM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taximan (Post 189846)
Dont discount the possibly that the new engine in the 2015 Z06 is an LT5.

Wouldn't THAT be interesting (assuming the new LT5 = DOHC, of course...).

Z51JEFF 12-05-2013 12:48 PM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
[QUOTE=taximan;189842

Is this good or bad for future value of our C4 ZR1s ?

[/QUOTE]

Bad,just how much worse can it get?Seeing how the C6 ZR1 did nothing to nudge the values of C4 ZR-1s I dont see how a new ZR1 would make any difference and I do believe a C7 ZR1 is in the pipeline.

JThomas 12-05-2013 07:15 PM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
I think the C6 ZR1 followed the same "demise" as the C4 ZR-1.

Both cars were approximately twice the price of the standard Corvette. Horsepower was one and a half times the standard car. Production for the C4 ZR-1 went along for six years and the production for the C6 ZR1 lasted only five years. Production declined each year, but I think overall, there were more C4 ZR-1 produced than the current C6 ZR1.

I believe the market and the brand benefitted from both cars, but realistically, I don't think too many Corvette faithful are willing to put up the cash for this Super Corvette. In the end, not many people could tell the difference between the C6 ZR1 from a Z06, which looked like a Grand Sport, etc.

In order for the Super Corvette to really be worth the extra monies, it should be totally set apart from the rest.

In my opinion, which means nothing, I can only see GM repeating this same recipe for the next generation. They will create excitement, which is great for the brand, but in the end, will the car be in high demand? For the first couple of years maybe, for those with disposable income to afford 100,000 dollar pleasure vehicles, but after that it becomes a car that others would be looking for as a great deal, three to four years from now.

:handshak:

edram454 12-05-2013 07:50 PM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
The ZR-1 designation has been used by GM on cars that stretch the limits of performance in there particular model years. The first Zr-1 1970 Corvette was basically an L-88 with a Lt-1 small block in it. It had to be ordered basically stripped. why, Zora was adamant in wanting a screamer small block to compete in b production classes and he pushed and named the rpo. this continued in 1971 with a zr1 and a zr2. zr2 was a big block version of the zr1 with the fabled ls-6 big block. again, stripped for racing. So in 1989 engineers wanted something real special and got the ok to go crazy and brought in Lotus to design a whole new engine and make a super corvette. I remember when one of our wealthy club members showed up with one of the first zr1's in 1990. there were crowds around the car and then he autocrossed it. on film, it made the other vettes seem that they were running in quick sand. zr1 means optimum performance regardless of price. cars to compete with the best the world has to offer. that is what owning any zr1 is. todays zr1 kicks *** all day long. they have put it up against those flat pancake lambos , ferrari, etc... 2,3,4 5 times the price and most times,, it kicks there butt. for 120k,, a c6 zr1 is an excellent value. Ours are a steal.

regards,

edramos..#3028:cheers:

rhipsher 12-05-2013 10:06 PM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
A C7 ZR1 won't do anything for the value just like the 2009 ZR1 didn't. The LT5 was totally different from any other corvette engine which is what seperated it from the rest. The big difference with the LS9 was a supercharger. Without it it made the same power as a Z06. BFD. It was still just single cam engine. There will never be another endeavor like there was with the LT5 ZR-1 so just forget about it. This country is moving toward socialism. There is nor will there ever be any interest from GM to ever make that happen again. Everything just came together back then.

Z51JEFF 12-05-2013 10:53 PM

Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year
 
Im still trying to figure out what Mercury Marine is going to put that motor in,what if?:dancing


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