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Old 04-25-2012   #11
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Default Re: Back fire at start

I bet you have a leaking injector... My 91 did this before I put RCs in it. I replaced the inj on my 90 with the 91 injectors and the 90 developed the same backfire at start up...
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Old 04-26-2012   #12
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I get a backfire every time I release the key too early after a start.
Solution: I keep the key turned a little longer.
Me too. A good practice especially since these motors normally roll over a tad n
longer before firing. An extra second on the start switch might save some plenum diving.

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Old 04-26-2012   #13
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It's only been a couple of times, but I tried what Scottfab suggested, holding the key a little longer. So far so good. On the subject of injectors. From FIC. New or rebuilt?
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Old 04-26-2012   #14
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I am running the rebuilts from FIC. They seem to work fine, but they are very sensitive to becoming stuck if they sit without fuel in them for any length of time. Jon at FIC has been great about servicing them as needed, but of course it's no fun to pull the plenum to pull the injectors after you just finished up another job. The price is right,though!

All things considered, I'd probably not buy the rebuilts again, but they are working fine for me as of now.
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Old 04-26-2012   #15
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I would not buy the rebuilds. Im running RC injectors a lot of folks have had notihing but postitive things to say about the Accels as well.
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

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Old 04-26-2012   #16
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RC's. Expensive, but-----

Mine are over 7 years and 10K without a burp!
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Old 04-26-2012   #17
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RC's. Expensive, but-----

Mine are over 7 years and 10K without a burp!

5 years 60K no issues.
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90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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Any reason to use anything other than the factory recommended unit? Bigger injector = more power?
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Old 04-26-2012   #19
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Any reason to use anything other than the factory recommended unit? Bigger injector = more power?

The Factory unit could not handle modern day fuels with all the EPA additives. They we actually melting the insides of the injectors and causing other issues like rust formation etc.

Back in the late 90s original ZR-1 owners were complaining to GM about defective injectors however GM would never acknowledge a defect with the comments of they were designed to perform before all the new EPA additive requirements.

So basically suck it was GMs response. RCs and Accels other than being new have a stainless steel sleeve that solved the melting and rust issue. These rebuilds do as well but Ive heard more than a few folks complaining about issue with the rebuilt injector having to be replaced or cleaned.

However I have heard nothing but great comments about the customer service of the rebuilder however that can only go so far when you have to keep pulling the plenum.
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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Old 04-26-2012   #20
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Thanks GC, you missed my point. Not GM injectors, but the actual size and rating of the injector. Like diferent size jets in a carb. Can I put in an injector that will flow more fuel and give me a bazillion more hp?
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