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Old 12-06-2013   #11
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Default Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year

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Im still trying to figure out what Mercury Marine is going to put that motor in,what if?
It's a crate motor. Put it in anything you can shoehorn it into.
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Old 12-06-2013   #12
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Still rather have the ZL1 - either 1 of the 2...
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Old 12-06-2013   #13
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Default Re: 2015 - Another no ZR1 year

the new merc marine engine is a work of art. but unfortunately I don't think it will see the light of day in a vette anytime soon unless someone stuffs it in there.

it's very expensive, heavy and big. doubt it would even fit.

the hoodline on the c7 is pretty tight. will the vette see another DOHC

yes. it's inevitable. but the C7 again shares the "truck engine" to maximize profitability across the line and allow the base c7 to be a very affordable and capable car.

as soon as chevy ponies up and produces a blown DOHC vette, I will be saving up for one.

in the meantime, the old LSV upholds it's honor quite well and is a joy to drive.

but I'm certain of one thing. one drive in the the c7 will "ruin me" the car doen't have have spectacular looks I crave, but it sure drives nice.

I'm resisting as I'm finally climbing out of debt with all my project cars and getting my daughter through school.

but by 2020, I'm looking at a new vette if I'm still kicking it.

anyone want to give me 50K for the LSV? if so, it's sold
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Old 12-06-2013   #14
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. Or they are incredulous when they see a DOHC motor sitting in a Corvette. So I think the ZR1 moniker has produced a real halo effect as the ULTIMATE Corvette and Ultimate American sports car. They trademarked LT-5. Who knows what that brings.
Thats true Dom two weeks ago at a show someguy asked me if my car came that way or did I order a special crate motor. Yeah I chuckled at bit. What really has been interesting is the response to Lee's MAP sensor cover. If they dont remember the history of the car they seem to remember that mercruiser did a special engine for a special Corvette.
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Old 12-06-2013   #15
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Dont discount the possibly that the new engine in the 2015 Z06 is an LT5.
The new engine will have either the L88 or LT4 moniker. The ZR will use the LT5 moniker.

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I think the C6 ZR1 followed the same "demise" as the C4 ZR-1.

Both cars were approximately twice the price of the standard Corvette. Horsepower was one and a half times the standard car. Production for the C4 ZR-1 went along for six years and the production for the C6 ZR1 lasted only five years. Production declined each year, but I think overall, there were more C4 ZR-1 produced than the current C6 ZR1.

I believe the market and the brand benefitted from both cars, but realistically, I don't think too many Corvette faithful are willing to put up the cash for this Super Corvette. In the end, not many people could tell the difference between the C6 ZR1 from a Z06, which looked like a Grand Sport, etc.

In order for the Super Corvette to really be worth the extra monies, it should be totally set apart from the rest.

In my opinion, which means nothing, I can only see GM repeating this same recipe for the next generation. They will create excitement, which is great for the brand, but in the end, will the car be in high demand? For the first couple of years maybe, for those with disposable income to afford 100,000 dollar pleasure vehicles, but after that it becomes a car that others would be looking for as a great deal, three to four years from now.


Joe, you could not have stated the obvious any better. While the C6ZR has a place in Corvette history the key word is history. Our cars are the perfect example, 5 years ago you would have thought someone was crazy if they told you that you could have bought your Aqua blue car for what you did. Or if I could have bought my Aerobody or Ruby for what I did. One thing is certain 5 years from now the C6Z and C6ZR are going to be worth pennies on the dollars and there will be a lot of great deals.

THere is around 2000 less C6ZR to C4ZR

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Im still trying to figure out what Mercury Marine is going to put that motor in,what if?
While that would be great if a new DOHC engine was being produced for the C7ZR. It is highly unlikely though, the C6ZR extensive price tag did not come from the Engine. If GM did install the DOHC engine in the C7ZR the price tag would have to be 175K.
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Old 12-06-2013   #16
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Lets not forget that the 1650hp version of the 1350hp Mercury Racing engine runs of race fuel.

I think in the C7 with teh GEn 5 engines, we are going to see the equivalent of the Cadillac/Camaro ZL1 with the LSA and the ZR1 with it's LS9.

The ZO6 GEN 5 engine will be a warmed over blown LT1 with around 600hp, and the ZR1 GEN 5 engine will be a high output version with the better internals. Although even the naturally aspirated LT1 gets the forged pistons and crank. Something only the LSA(forged crank/hyper pistons)/LS9(forged pistons/crank). I'm wondering what blower they might use. Maybe a COPO Camaro screwcharger?

12657236 LT1 wet sump
12657248 LT1 dry sump
Either crate engine is $10,700. Quite a jump over the GEN 4 LS3 engine 19256529 for $5,800. Heck and LSA engine 19257899 can be had for $8600.

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