Quarterly Publication

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by zr1mom

Hi John,

Even though I'm not running the club anymore or on the board I'll pass along my feelings since I was the one who originally set this club up.

This forum is open to the public. I don't feel items like the bylaws, finanical reports or club business should be made public.

I do feel this info should be made available to the "Registry Members" either on the Registery Member Only potion of the web site or using the clubs email.

Thanks,
Mom

Hello to you too Dave. Nice to see you posting.

I was only talking about the Bylaws being on the website. They are, after all, public information and should be available upon request. But why make it that hard or even charge anyone to see them (membership). I mean, there are no advantages or disadvantages to having access to the Bylaws. It might help to be more open about these things and could possibly generate more interest in joining the club as a member.

I guess my big point here is I am a member of the Registry and would like to see more information being passed on to the general membership. Right now I feel like this is a closed little club and you have to know someone to find anything out.

To me, all meetings should have agendas published and minutes posted afterwards. This is the way you get involvement from the general membership.

All this, or course is only my 2 cents worth and I'm glad I won't be banned from this Forum for stating them.

John

[zr1mom]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Hello to you too Dave. Nice to see you posting.

I was only talking about the Bylaws being on the website. They are, after all, public information and should be available upon request. But why make it that hard or even charge anyone to see them (membership). I mean, there are no advantages or disadvantages to having access to the Bylaws. It might help to be more open about these things and could possibly generate more interest in joining the club as a member.

I guess my big point here is I am a member of the Registry and would like to see more information being passed on to the general membership. Right now I feel like this is a closed little club and you have to know someone to find anything out.

To me, all meetings should have agendas published and minutes posted afterwards. This is the way you get involvement from the general membership.

All this, or course is only my 2 cents worth and I'm glad I won't be banned from this Forum for stating them.

John

Hi John,

You are correct the bylaws are not secret in nature. Just my opinion that the laws since they apply to ZR-1 Net Members I see no real purpose or why the rest of the world would even care. Again like you my $.02.

As far as the club being more open I agree. There's nothing to hide and the club belongs to the members not anyone individual. I also don't believe anyone is hiding anything on purpose. In truth there really isn't much going on.

The purpose of the newsletter is to let every one know what's going on as well as the web site and thru email.

This forum as well, however the original intent of this forum was to act as a public place for all to meet and greet. So you have members as well as non-members posting.

What makes this or any club a great club is for all to participate but the truth of the matter is only a small percetnage actually do. 80% of the work is done by 20% of the members and nobody gets paid for doing it which is not a bad thing.

Nobody gets ban for an honest opinion. =D>

Mom

[95ZR1]

Since one of the purposes of this site is to solicit new members (since there is application information on the site), it may be of interest, not just to existing but prospective members, to know what the By-Laws are. Are they available anywhere on this site? I saw a page that listed the 8 Board Members, but is there a list anywhere of all the Directors of this club? I'm really curious how many people accepted officer positions in this club who should feel responsible for its success by doing things like contributing news articles, while at the same time a member from one state takes crap from the director of another state.

[bobbyhi]

In my old and feeble mind I am having a tough time trying to figure out what these members want. Do you want a copy of the By-Laws? Do you need the financial sheets? Do you feel "left out" because you are not on the Board of Directors or hold office? This organization is not some large corporation. It is a bunch of great guys and gals that care an awful lot about the Z's and are willing to share their thoughts and opinions.

When I got my Z, I felt that I needed the companionship and knowledge of other Z owners. I found that here. The articles in the publication have given me many insights to my Z. I really don't care if there is only one issue a year or four. Just keep feeding me information. I have not sent anything in to be published because I lack the knowledge regarding the tech issues of our cars. I can make a fool of myself in much easier ways .

Over the last fews months, I have seen many of the members get together in their own areas. This is something that this organization has done to promote our hobby. That is what this organization is about. I don't think that By-Laws, Directors, etc. has anything to do with what we want from this site. You can see down below that I am the "Minnesota State Director". What does that mean? Well, nobody ever stepped forward and took the position so I figured what the heck. Can't be too many responsibilities. And I was right. All I do is take my Z to shows and cruises and brag about our cars. I pass out the NetRegistry cards and talk to people about our fine organization. I contact people that I know have brought Z's to MN and try to get them to join. Is that enough to be know as MN Director? I hope so because that is all that I can do for our hobby.

I'm sure that our President and the Board does everything in its power to keep this organization floating. It has to be a challege to them to plan the events, finding articles for the publication, and the various other items that need attention. I'm sure their full time jobs keep them pretty busy during their everyday things. The President's pay probably is very big for the grief that he has to put up with.

Ok, I'm done rambling. I just had to get this off my chest.

Thank you Mr. President and the Board. To me, you all are doing a fine job keeping the ZR-1"s on the map.............Keep up the good work

[ZR1FUN]

The thought has been bouncing around in my head, why not repeat some of the old regitry news letter information after all there are a bunch of new Z owners that have not seen all the old articles. That includes me.

I am not suggesting we republish the news letter information available on this site but from the days before the current version of the news letter assuming of course that information is available.

As a member I am looking forward to the Pacific NW ZR1 gathering at Jeff Flints place which is supported by the National ZR1 Net Registry. These events are the heart of the organization to me.

I may even make the Los Vegas gathering in September another ZR1 Net Registry supported event.

ZR1FUN

Originally Posted by 95ZR1

Since one of the purposes of this site is to solicit new members (since there is application information on the site), it may be of interest, not just to existing but prospective members, to know what the By-Laws are. Are they available anywhere on this site?

Carl, here are the bylaws for you to browse at your convenience. They are located here, and you must be a member to see them.


http://zr1netregistry.com/member/memberbylaws.htm

I saw a page that listed the 8 Board Members, but is there a list anywhere of all the Directors of this club?

Here you go once again. Browse at your convenience.

http://zr1netregistry.com/member/organization.htm

I'm really curious how many people accepted officer positions in this club who should feel responsible for its success by doing things like contributing news articles.

Let's go through the list of who they are and what I know they do.

Ron Kreigh - Pres - He does plenty.
Ron Hanselman - VP - Vegas event.
Mim Petersen - Secretary - I see her at a few races but don't talk registry with her.
David Johnson - Treasurer - He just accepted this pos. He has done plenty of organizing for Carlisle and some products forr registry members.
Uly Uplinger - Vegas events for the past three years.
Bill Hedberg - Membership Director - Busy man as well, sending out member packets, answering questions and keeping things in order. Thank goodenss he's retired.
Chris Gilliand - Race/NCM director - NCRS guy, helps in setting up special displays has hosted a SE event in Birmingham
Dwight Eickmeier - Editor - A guy who gets no credit. Creates, edits the newsletter, begs for material, re-uses old material, is at almost all major events. Probably one of the biggest LT5/ZR-1 supporters.

The board of directors should not be filling out articles for the newsletter, unless it is just an brief update on what is going on....

while at the same time a member from one state takes crap from the director of another state.

Sorry if you feel that way Carl. But the only posts that I can vividly remember from you are complaints. Complaints about signing up, complaints about the newsletter, complaints about the password.

Originally Posted by ZR1FUN

The thought has been bouncing around in my head, why not repeat some of the old regitry news letter information after all there are a bunch of new Z owners that have not seen all the old articles. That includes me.

I am not suggesting we republish the news letter information available on this site but from the days before the current version of the news letter assuming of course that information is available.

As a member I am looking forward to the Pacific NW ZR1 gathering at Jeff Flints place which is supported by the National ZR1 Net Registry. These events are the heart of the organization to me.

I may even make the Los Vegas gathering in September another ZR1 Net Registry supported event.

ZR1FUN

Doug, look forward to seeing you and Velma again. You are right, the heart of the registry is the events.

[rkreigh]

thanks for the support guys. for me personally, there are always challenges and keeping up with the demands of a busy job, family and the club sometimes suffers as I don't have as much spare time as I need to keep on top of the many issues.

clearly, as everyone stated, in this type of club you "get out of it" what you "put into it" it's pure volunteer, and we do it for the love of the
ZR-1 and getting together with good friends, sharing experiences, and yes, helping each other!!

that being said, in many cases our "deliverables" and administrative support has slipped a bit. in the case of the newsletter, I write up quite a few articles, but I REALLY need your help.

stories about cruises, what you enjoy about the car, something you fixed, ideas, challenges, experiences, anything. don't be embarrassed!

I am calling for help from our directors and board too.

we're trying hard to get the newsletter out, but still short of content.

I'll write up more, but I could use a hand. please don't hesitate to write up something about a local meet, cruise spot, or just one of your experiences enjoying the car (why you like it, challenges, ect...)

sharing experiences is what the club is truely about!!

I want to thank everyone who works hard to continue this fine organization.

much of it happens behind the scenes, alot of effort is put into running the club, and we don't make a penny.

financially, the club is doing better than ever! none of us profit from that, the club members do. we sponsor the major events, and also encourage local events to step up and ask for funding too. that's what it's there for!

this site and the members are a source of info and assistance to keep their cars running, get better performance, and keep them on the road.

as parts become more scarce and are discontinued, used parts are the only source sometimes, or creatively making new ones, which makes the club even more inportant to scrounge up what you need.

many times we encourage vendors to make or recondition discontinued parts, and the "buying power" of a large group of members is the only thing that will make that happen.

thanks for your support. and keep those complaints coming too. they are the breakfast I feed on to make improvements, and yes, fess up to where we are "under performing" as can happen from time to time.

but with the complaint, please offer suggestions and help. as the Prez, I do my best to heard the cats and I have alot of help. but the more you get involved to make the club better, the easier it becomes and the better the overall club is. two words. get involved. this type of organization depends on it.

thanks for listening.

[Z Factor]

Originally Posted by ZR1FUN

One of the best things about the registry is the ability to voice your opinion and not get banned. This is great and I hope we all can appreciate this privilege.

Doug

Indeed, and any complaint or criticism done in a civil manner will always have a place on the forum. Other than spammers, no one has ever been banned from the forum, and I hope to keep it that way.

This particular section of the forum serves several purposes, and members inquiries or suggestions about the club are also welcome. The feedback from members allows the board and directors to better understand the needs and desires of the membership.

[95ZR1]

Jeff, thanks for the links, and Ron - excellent post - good job.