ZR-1 Net Registry Forums  

Go Back   ZR-1 Net Registry Forums > C4 ZR-1 > C4 ZR-1 Technical Postings

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-25-2018   #31
Ccmano
 
Ccmano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sparks, NV
Posts: 2,852
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynomite View Post
I cannot find it on 1990 (L98)??


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry


We tried. So unless some can determine the electronic differences and some how update the earlier ones, repair the ones we have or build new ones we are SOL.
H



Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
90'ZR-1 #1461 Red/Black
Ported Intake, Degreed Cams, OBX Headers & Exhaust, Fidanza FW, Secondary Delete, Custom tune, C6 GS Wheels. Sold
08 C6 Z51 Crystal Red Metallic Sold Vararam Intake, Tune, Sold
05 C6 Z51 Red/Black Sold
90'ZR-1 #1723 Black/Gray Sold but not forgotten
91' Z51 L98 White Vert. My First, you always remember your first. Sold.
Ccmano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2018   #32
GOLDCYLON
 
GOLDCYLON's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 9,153
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ccmano View Post
We tried. So unless some can determine the electronic differences and some how update the earlier ones, repair the ones we have or build new ones we are SOL.
H



Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
It would take somebody of -=JEFF=-'s caliber to tear both an early C4's module apart and a 90 ZR-1 module apart to see what the difference is as the form factor is identical. Maybe it's as simple as unpinning a wire or changing a capacitor. This would be a great project for the club to invest in. As Dom states we are all on borrowed time electronically. GC
__________________
GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014
GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's)

GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V


Arizona State Director




91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

11 RED/GREY CTS-V
GOLDCYLON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2018   #33
-=Jeff=-
 
-=Jeff=-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bartlett, IL
Posts: 7,132
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

It would be better easier to convert to 1991 BIN and knock setup
__________________
1990 Corvette ZR-1 #1051
Watson Headers (2" Primary) - 3" Magnaflow Bullet cats - LT4 Catback
Late Model IH - Plenum
Coilovers - 4.10s
Custom Interior
NCM Lifetime Member #978
-=Jeff=- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2018   #34
GOLDCYLON
 
GOLDCYLON's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 9,153
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- View Post
It would be better easier to convert to 1991 BIN and knock setup
I would have to take your word on that -=JEFF=-
__________________
GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014
GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's)

GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V


Arizona State Director




91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

11 RED/GREY CTS-V
GOLDCYLON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2018   #35
-=Jeff=-
 
-=Jeff=-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bartlett, IL
Posts: 7,132
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

Did some looking.. you could change the 1990 Calibration to the 1991 Calibration by doing the following:
- Change to the 1991 Knock sensor and add the wire going to the ECM
- Add the 2 wires for the Power Light and Power Input to the ECM
- Simple Relay circuit wired between the new Power wires and the Key and light.
- Add the knock PCB to the MEMCAL
- use a 1991 Definition and BIN file and it should work


** I am assuming the CCM will not complain between 1990-1991, I think the CCM-ECM streams are the same. 1991 adds features on the CCM side, like DAB, Oil level and turn signal chime..

EDIT.. I have not tried this yet
__________________
1990 Corvette ZR-1 #1051
Watson Headers (2" Primary) - 3" Magnaflow Bullet cats - LT4 Catback
Late Model IH - Plenum
Coilovers - 4.10s
Custom Interior
NCM Lifetime Member #978

Last edited by -=Jeff=-; 03-09-2018 at 10:56 AM.
-=Jeff=- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019   #36
jrd1990zr1
 
jrd1990zr1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Delanson, NY
Posts: 907
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

FYI

Someone on E-bay has a bunch of the 16080211 Knock sensors for $59.00 each. Claims they are new not used. I just bought one for a spare.

John
__________________

1968 convertible Lemans Blue,
1986 coupe Medium Blue NCRS Top Flight (sold),
1990 ZR1 #2529 Red NCRS Regional and National Top Flight (sold),
1990 ZR1 #2124 Charcoal Metallic NCRS Top Flight 2010 & 2018,
2003 Anniversary Red Convertible (sold)
jrd1990zr1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019   #37
GOLDCYLON
 
GOLDCYLON's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 9,153
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrd1990zr1 View Post
FYI

Someone on E-bay has a bunch of the 16080211 Knock sensors for $59.00 each. Claims they are new not used. I just bought one for a spare.

John
Good find. I have a spare already hopefully other MY90 owners will consider just in case. GC
__________________
GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014
GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's)

GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V


Arizona State Director




91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

11 RED/GREY CTS-V
GOLDCYLON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019   #38
XfireZ51
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chicagoland, IL
Posts: 9,669
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

Altho =Jeff= and I discussed a way of utilizing the 91-95 proms w on-board KS for the 90s.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Former Membership Chairman
Former ZR-1 Registry - BOD
1972 Corvette 4speed base Coupe SOLD long time ago
1984 Corvette Z-51/4+3 SOLD
1992 Corvette ZR-1 Aqua/Gray #474 SOLD
1992 Corvette ZR-1 Black Rose/Cognac #458
2014 Honda VFR Interceptor DX
XfireZ51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019   #39
TX '90 ZR1
 
TX '90 ZR1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: TX
Posts: 1,957
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

I snagged one for my spares also.
Thanks for the heads-up guys.
__________________
Kenny
1990 #442
TX '90 ZR1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019   #40
WVZR-1
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,889
Default Re: Electronic Spark Module ... future MY 90 Achilles Heel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrd1990zr1 View Post
FYI

Someone on E-bay has a bunch of the 16080211 Knock sensors for $59.00 each. Claims they are new not used. I just bought one for a spare.

John
Quote:
Originally Posted by TX '90 ZR1 View Post
I snagged one for my spares also.
Thanks for the heads-up guys.
I'd be interested in some better snapshots of what you guys bought and also maybe some 'date code' info. Snapshots on the eBay offering lack much detail.
WVZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ZR-1 Net Registry 2020