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Old 09-26-2013   #1
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Default Re: So...How much does it cost to build a 380 cube ZR1?

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I'm getting ready to go the 380 route with an offset grind. Does the grinding process dislodge the plug in the crank??
Rich

IMHO yes. The crank has a blend of the screwed in type and the pressed in type. GC recommends welding at minimum the expansion (Press in) plugs. You are changing the dynamics beyond what was engineered. Same problem when you add major HP and dont add better cooling, better rear ends and better braking. Disaster.

Read my story of woe

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Old 09-26-2013   #2
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Default Re: So...How much does it cost to build a 380 cube ZR1?

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I'm getting ready to go the 380 route with an offset grind. Does the grinding process dislodge the plug in the crank??
Rich
No - according to Ryan. I will still inspect the plug and make sure all is well before my mechanic starts closing up.
Hmmm, according to GC it's otherwise... I will look into it further.

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No - according to Ryan. I will still inspect the plug and make sure all is well before my mechanic starts closing up.
Hmmm, according to GC it's otherwise... I will look into it further.

You've been advised.
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You've been advised.
And noted Redeye!
I will inspect the plug and turn to Dr. Phil for guidance.
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Old 09-26-2013   #5
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Awesome info Hopefully Ill be treading down this path in the relatively near future.

What options are there for cams? are custom grinds available? Im tempted to want to do something like my LT4 build.. all lightweight, maxilite rods, hollow valves , solid roller etc.

Im thinking offset grind, longer rod, aggressive cams, hollow valves, solid lifter setup and rpm it a bit more for more hp. Not sure how the lifter setup is on the LT5. The s54 in my e46 M3 had a rocker setup that was easy to maintain lash with via swapping shims.
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Old 09-29-2013   #6
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I am also curious to know if cams can be changed out with motor in car. That would be the next mod I would consider at this point. I already have porting, headers, exhaust, chip etc...

I also see a Fidanza flywheel is also recommended by many. Is this doable with vehicle on jack stands?
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Old 09-30-2013   #7
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I am also curious to know if cams can be changed out with motor in car. That would be the next mod I would consider at this point. I already have porting, headers, exhaust, chip etc...

I also see a Fidanza flywheel is also recommended by many. Is this doable with vehicle on jack stands?
while it's technically feasible to time the cams in the car it's not really the best approach and much harder than pulling the motor to do it right

putting a fidanza in the car on jack stands can be done but again NOT really recommended. the ZF 6 speed is a heavy rascal and getting the c beam out can be a hassle without some wiggle room

get a good transmission jack and a lift, it's worth it! I haven't ever done it on jack stands before so I can't comment on how hard it is, but for sure it can be done, just much tougher
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