hypothetical 90 z resurrection thread - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

mjn76 · 11-04-2017

As some as you know there has been a recent thread pop up in the for sale forum about a 1990 z that has fallen into disrepair while in long term storage.
this car has brought up some interesting talk on more than one forum (for those who have not been following here are links to the threads)
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28468
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-be-worth.html
now regardless of what is going on with this car in real life, I thought it would be a fun thought experiment to see what all you think should/could/would happen to this car
here is what we will use as our test subject.
1990 Zr-1, comp yellow, 2 owner car , 35k miles, stock, good interior and exterior cosmetics, ran when parked 12 years ago, was parked not placed in storage
mice have gotten to the underhood wiring and hoses but not the interior wiring.
interior does have mouse smell however.
now here is the assignment.
what is the car worth in its current state? would it be worthwhile to try to save?
if so what would be the best course of action and what would be the financial burden? what would the value be at the end?
I look forward to hearing everyones expert opinions
M.J.N.

Ccmano · 11-04-2017

A1990 · 11-04-2017

I will alert Mark Horner on this thread. While not a ZR-1, I know Mark's 88 Challenge car suffered the same fate. Wiring harness chewed and mouse droppings/smell everywhere.

Fairly certain he took the entire interior out, cleaned and replaced as needed and replaced/repaired all the wiring.

I don't know all the exact details so hopefully he will provide more insight.

GOLDCYLON · 11-04-2017

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Originally Posted by mjn76

As some as you know there has been a recent thread pop up in the for sale forum about a 1990 z that has fallen into disrepair while in long term storage.
this car has brought up some interesting talk on more than one forum (for those who have not been following here are links to the threads)
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28468
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-be-worth.html
now regardless of what is going on with this car in real life, I thought it would be a fun thought experiment to see what all you think should/could/would happen to this car
here is what we will use as our test subject.
1990 Zr-1, comp yellow, 2 owner car , 35k miles, stock, good interior and exterior cosmetics, ran when parked 12 years ago, was parked not placed in storage
mice have gotten to the underhood wiring and hoses but not the interior wiring.
interior does have mouse smell however.
now here is the assignment.
what is the car worth in its current state? would it be worthwhile to try to save?
if so what would be the best course of action and what would be the financial burden? what would the value be at the end?
I look forward to hearing everyones expert opinions
M.J.N.

Having spoken to the owner she's pretty emotional about the car. Could it be savaged ? Yes but at what cost.? If it needs a total new interior because of the mice/rat problem, a new paint job on top of all the potential problems it would make more sense to part it out. However if money is no object go for it. It's like owning a T-bucket. You will never see the money you put into it back out of it so the best one to buy is the one for sale that is completed at half the price it took to put it together. GC

RoadRat · 11-04-2017

Try to find a slightly wrecked doner car for about 10-12K and spend another 10-12K switching things out. You can always repaint later. Still have more than its worth in it, both not so much it's absurd...especially if you have an emotiional bond with the car.

GOLDCYLON · 11-04-2017

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Originally Posted by RoadRat

Try to find a slightly wrecked doner car for about 10-12K and spend another 10-12K switching things out. You can always repaint later. Still have more than its worth in it, both not so much it's absurd...especially if you have an emotiional bond with the car.

It is what it is.. and as that... it's entirely the owners decision. I have asked for pictures to advise her further. Hopefully that is fore coming

Z51JEFF · 11-04-2017

Considering its Comp Yellow,rare for 90 I'd fix it but wouldn't pay over $10,000 the way it sits. I'd gut the interior down to the bare floor and go from there. I think there were only 24 Comp Yellow cars built in 90. Definitely worth saving,if the car were any other color that would be a tough call on value. Is the owner wanting to sell the car?

mjn76 · 11-04-2017

owner has been in contact with gc about her car, the fate of which is unknown that is why I started up this thread. I do not want to disparage her or her car but wanted to see what others would do in a similar situation. I am of the opinion that the car I described is of very little value as is sits as it is unknown if the car can be brought back for a reasonable price and without being able to verify the function of its core components it is also not worth much as a parts car. (unknown engine, trans, possibly smell contaminated interior and tub does not leave a lot of meat on the bone)
this is just a hypothetical not about the actual car, if she decides to read it and see some opinions all the better to be informed as to what she can do to hers but I do not want to highjack or speak for/about the owner or her car from the other thread.
thanks

Z51JEFF · 11-04-2017

This car can and needs to be saved. GC can help with parts and Jerrys Gaskets just about has everything to bring it back.

-=Jeff=- · 11-05-2017

I would fix it. I would have liked a quasar or yellow Z but beggars cannot be choosers when you find a good price in your range

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11-04-2017	#1
mjn76 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: woodstock il Posts: 30	hypothetical 90 z resurrection thread As some as you know there has been a recent thread pop up in the for sale forum about a 1990 z that has fallen into disrepair while in long term storage. this car has brought up some interesting talk on more than one forum (for those who have not been following here are links to the threads) http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28468 https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-be-worth.html now regardless of what is going on with this car in real life, I thought it would be a fun thought experiment to see what all you think should/could/would happen to this car here is what we will use as our test subject. 1990 Zr-1, comp yellow, 2 owner car , 35k miles, stock, good interior and exterior cosmetics, ran when parked 12 years ago, was parked not placed in storage mice have gotten to the underhood wiring and hoses but not the interior wiring. interior does have mouse smell however. now here is the assignment. what is the car worth in its current state? would it be worthwhile to try to save? if so what would be the best course of action and what would be the financial burden? what would the value be at the end? I look forward to hearing everyones expert opinions M.J.N.

11-04-2017	#2
Ccmano Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 2,855	Re: hypothetical 90 z resurrection thread __________________ 90'ZR-1 #1461 Red/Black Ported Intake, Degreed Cams, OBX Headers & Exhaust, Fidanza FW, Secondary Delete, Custom tune, C6 GS Wheels. Sold 08 C6 Z51 Crystal Red Metallic Sold Vararam Intake, Tune, Sold 05 C6 Z51 Red/Black Sold 90'ZR-1 #1723 Black/Gray Sold but not forgotten 91' Z51 L98 White Vert. My First, you always remember your first. Sold.

11-04-2017	#3
A1990 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Grand Island NE Posts: 1,508	Re: hypothetical 90 z resurrection thread I will alert Mark Horner on this thread. While not a ZR-1, I know Mark's 88 Challenge car suffered the same fate. Wiring harness chewed and mouse droppings/smell everywhere. Fairly certain he took the entire interior out, cleaned and replaced as needed and replaced/repaired all the wiring. I don't know all the exact details so hopefully he will provide more insight. __________________ Dennis Fierstein 90 ZR-1 #2562 Atomic-Z ZR-1 Net Registry Chairman of the Board ZR-1 Net Registry Treasurer

11-04-2017	#5
RoadRat Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 10	Re: hypothetical 90 z resurrection thread Try to find a slightly wrecked doner car for about 10-12K and spend another 10-12K switching things out. You can always repaint later. Still have more than its worth in it, both not so much it's absurd...especially if you have an emotiional bond with the car. __________________ Paul 1990 Red / Grey #1584 :usa: Last edited by RoadRat; 11-04-2017 at 06:04 PM.

11-04-2017	#7
Z51JEFF Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fremont,Ca Posts: 3,049	Re: hypothetical 90 z resurrection thread Considering its Comp Yellow,rare for 90 I'd fix it but wouldn't pay over $10,000 the way it sits. I'd gut the interior down to the bare floor and go from there. I think there were only 24 Comp Yellow cars built in 90. Definitely worth saving,if the car were any other color that would be a tough call on value. Is the owner wanting to sell the car?

11-05-2017	#10
-=Jeff=- Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 7,137	Re: hypothetical 90 z resurrection thread I would fix it. I would have liked a quasar or yellow Z but beggars cannot be choosers when you find a good price in your range Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry __________________ 1990 Corvette ZR-1 #1051 Watson Headers (2" Primary) - 3" Magnaflow Bullet cats - LT4 Catback Late Model IH - Plenum Coilovers - 4.10s Custom Interior NCM Lifetime Member #978