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QB93Z · 07-31-2014

I need the door glass guide for passenger side glass.

This guide (a plastic piece) attaches to the lower, forward corner of the glass and rides on the guide bar to position the glass properly as it is raised.

My guide is broken and the glass goes too far up and then the upper rear corner of the glass hits the edge of the halo when the door is closed.

I believe that the part I need is not year specific, and it is not ZR-1 only.

Anybody got one?

Jim
443-244-1347

Jagdpanzer · 07-31-2014

Jim,
I just did this repair on my driver side window.
Found the the guide on ebay.

Jagdpanzer · 07-31-2014

Here you go
Right side:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-thru-19...#ht_2736wt_868

Left side:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-thru-19...#ht_2893wt_868

QB93Z · 07-31-2014

Thanks Phil. I thought it was too obscure a part for eBay. Silly me.

Bought it!!

Jim

Fully Vetted · 07-31-2014

Jim, I just did this repair as well. You're going to have fun with the nut that holds that stop/guide on. The back side is basically a big washer with 2 opposing holes and you have to either buy the tool ($65) or improvise. I used a set of 90 degree needle nose pliers. It is very tight and has thread locker on it. That was the most difficult part of the install. The only difficult part actually.

GOLDCYLON · 08-01-2014

Does anybody know if these will work on a 90 or 91? I know it was an improvement for all MY92s and up because of the rattle glass problems in 90and 91 when the windows are down. Anybody has this mod or done this yet? I dont think so im not sure if the 90s and 91s have the rod guide that holds this stop in the window, nor the hole in the window where the guide stop goes? Phil ??/ Anybody please advise -=JEFF=- ?

Note to JIM I think I have this specific socket with the two tines on it. LMK if you like to borrow it? Also Jim great pics below of the work details.

GC

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...indow-fix.html

WVZR-1 · 08-01-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

Does anybody know if these will work on a 90 or 91? I know it was an improvement for all MY92s and up because of the rattle glass problems in 90and 91 when the windows are down. Anybody has this mod or done this yet? I dont think so im not sure if the 90s and 91s have the rod guide that holds this stop in the window, nor the hole in the window where the guide stop goes? Phil ??/ Anybody please advise -=JEFF=- ?

The parts are still available at the dealer and if you've a relationship with a dealer you should be able to buy them competitively priced.

The parts were added in MY '93 I believe and the glass was updated at the same time. These would not work in '90 cars as the glass isn't the same as later cars. "91 & '92 if the glass is original I don't believe the hole is present unless the glass has been replaced and then it's likely.

The parts mentioned are '93 thru end of production.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

Note to JIM I think I have this specific socket with the two tines on it. LMK if you like to borrow it?

That is a 'spanner' socket and if yours has the round projections that are direct fit to the spanner nut that would be fine but *I don't believe the guide uses the spanner nut. The 'spanner' socket is generally pretty easily manufactured using the appropriate old socket and a grinder/dremel to modify it.

* I found a couple references to the 'spanner' so it's likely used. I've never had a later door apart.

GOLDCYLON · 08-01-2014

I believe it uses a spanner nut as can be seen in the mirror in the corvette forum link I provided in my post. Good info thanks.

Has anybody done this conversion yet with an earlier model car? GC

WVZR-1 · 08-01-2014

I see a couple revisions on the glass BUT they're all 4 hole glass so if a person had the guide channels and the stops I would think they could be maybe added to the '91 or 92. I can't find any visual images of the '91+ door glass. I can find many for the '84 - '90 and again it's a 4 hole glass but is the forward most hole in the same location? If it were then the add to a '90 could be possible but you need to be able to cannibalize '93+ doors for the guide channels. There are left and right with no availability from GM.

If someone has a '93+ door on the ground they could remove the glass and I believe comparisons by snapshots might answer the question: Can these be added?

GOLDCYLON · 08-01-2014

Jim here is a picture of the tool. Which basically is a special socket. Lmk GC

07-31-2014	#1
QB93Z Join Date: May 2007 Location: Westminster, Maryland Posts: 3,687	WTB - I need the door glass guide (C4) I need the door glass guide for passenger side glass. This guide (a plastic piece) attaches to the lower, forward corner of the glass and rides on the guide bar to position the glass properly as it is raised. My guide is broken and the glass goes too far up and then the upper rear corner of the glass hits the edge of the halo when the door is closed. I believe that the part I need is not year specific, and it is not ZR-1 only. Anybody got one? Jim 443-244-1347 __________________ If it isn't fun, you aren't doing it right! 1990 Black ZR-1 - sold 1993 Quasar Blue ZR-1 1994 Competition Yellow ZR-1 1995 Dark Purple ZR-1 Maryland State Coordinator WAZOO Member

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Jagdpanzer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,644	Re: WTB - I need the door glass guide (C4) Jim, I just did this repair on my driver side window. Found the the guide on ebay. __________________ Phil Wasinger 1994 Torch Red ZR-1 WAZOO Member George Braml Intake

07-31-2014	#3
Jagdpanzer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,644	Re: WTB - I need the door glass guide (C4) Here you go Right side: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-thru-19...#ht_2736wt_868 Left side: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-thru-19...#ht_2893wt_868 __________________ Phil Wasinger 1994 Torch Red ZR-1 WAZOO Member George Braml Intake Last edited by Jagdpanzer; 07-31-2014 at 03:07 PM.

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QB93Z Join Date: May 2007 Location: Westminster, Maryland Posts: 3,687	Re: WTB - I need the door glass guide (C4) Thanks Phil. I thought it was too obscure a part for eBay. Silly me. Bought it!! Jim __________________ If it isn't fun, you aren't doing it right! 1990 Black ZR-1 - sold 1993 Quasar Blue ZR-1 1994 Competition Yellow ZR-1 1995 Dark Purple ZR-1 Maryland State Coordinator WAZOO Member

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Fully Vetted Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Rockwall, Tx Posts: 1,510	Re: WTB - I need the door glass guide (C4) Jim, I just did this repair as well. You're going to have fun with the nut that holds that stop/guide on. The back side is basically a big washer with 2 opposing holes and you have to either buy the tool ($65) or improvise. I used a set of 90 degree needle nose pliers. It is very tight and has thread locker on it. That was the most difficult part of the install. The only difficult part actually. __________________ _________________ 1994 AB/Grey #141 430 RWHP/392 RWTQ FBI Lyposuction / Secondaries relieved of duty / SW Long Tube Headers / Corsa Exhaust / FIC SS Injectors / MSD Coils / Lightweight Pulleys / Corey tuned B & M Shifter / Aluminum Flywheel / Samco Hoses / Shelby Series One's / C4 No Flex Frame Stiffener BBC - Bling By Carter: Custom ZR-1 Center Caps / Custom Plenum Plate / Air Box Knobs / TB Cover / Oil Filter Cover

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GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,152	Re: WTB - I need the door glass guide (C4) Does anybody know if these will work on a 90 or 91? I know it was an improvement for all MY92s and up because of the rattle glass problems in 90and 91 when the windows are down. Anybody has this mod or done this yet? I dont think so im not sure if the 90s and 91s have the rod guide that holds this stop in the window, nor the hole in the window where the guide stop goes? Phil ??/ Anybody please advise -=JEFF=- ? Note to JIM I think I have this specific socket with the two tines on it. LMK if you like to borrow it? Also Jim great pics below of the work details. GC http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...indow-fix.html __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V Last edited by GOLDCYLON; 08-01-2014 at 08:57 AM.

08-01-2014	#9
WVZR-1 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,889	Re: WTB - I need the door glass guide (C4) I see a couple revisions on the glass BUT they're all 4 hole glass so if a person had the guide channels and the stops I would think they could be maybe added to the '91 or 92. I can't find any visual images of the '91+ door glass. I can find many for the '84 - '90 and again it's a 4 hole glass but is the forward most hole in the same location? If it were then the add to a '90 could be possible but you need to be able to cannibalize '93+ doors for the guide channels. There are left and right with no availability from GM. If someone has a '93+ door on the ground they could remove the glass and I believe comparisons by snapshots might answer the question: Can these be added?