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JC, If they build sheet is purchased, your friend can look at these two boxes:

http://www.syreal.com/074GMService.jpg

They will tell you who it was charged to and who it was shipped to. This is a clip of 89 #074s build sheet. It was shipped to the GM Service Dev. Center. This is where the manuals where written and service techniques were ironed out. Of course a week after it was delivered the 89MY was cancelled so the car was reassigned to the PR department.

Check to see if #102 has a similar marking on its fan shroud:

http://www.syreal.com/temponshroud.JPG

Jingles told me all cars delivered to the tech center coolant systems are checked and the number was written on the fan shroud. To prove I am not "all knowing" I have yet to determine what the number actually means, but I have seen this on virtually all prototypes and engineering units I have witnessed.

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Originally Posted by JThomas (Post 173244)

Eric:

Thanks for that information! I have spoken to Ingles, Minneker and Heinricy about my car, because they are all here in Michigan, but I will try this and see if I can find out anythig additional.

Thanks

Joe, All good sources (obviously) What I have found is there are many cars that slip throught the cracks. I have talked to many in the "know" about #004 and #074 and they have told me short of the Snake Skinner, 24 hour car etc. They had lots of cars, they don't remember them specifically and it was a long time ago. Best way I have found is get all the available documents and narrow it down that way. Eric

Here is what GM Media Archive sent me on #074:

http://www.syreal.com/074Vehicle_Invoice_sm.jpg

I have seen similar PEP invoices from a couple 1990's It should tell you when is was sold to an employee or released to a dealer.

Hey Guys,

My friend sent me the build sheet picture that I have attached and let me know that there was nothing written on the fan shroud. He also wanted to know where he may find information concerning how many were made with his color combination. He just bought the 90 ZR1 and also has a 96 GS Coupe with red interior in the stable. A great sample of the most sought after C4's.Thanks again for your responses.

In 1990 there were 181 Dark Red ZR-1's built. Of those, 104 had black interior and 77 had Saddle interior. 1990 #102 was delivered with the Bronze top only.

Enjoy.

Jim

Thank you for the information Jim. I will pass it along...

fantastic thread, lots of good information here

JC, The Qual-Effic designated that car as a generic test/quality car used to evaluate the car. An interesting fact is most of the 15 France 1989 ZR-1s were built for 047 but then transfered to 052.

Some other C-P-C "Dealers"

052 CPC Group Milford Proving Grounds
185 GM Service Development Center
134 Cambpell-Ewald Ad Agency
780 Chevrolet Advertising Photo

#102 was more then likely assigned a "1" p number as a "production" test use car. For example Heinricy's Snake Skinner was assigned

19Y0123
1- Production Pool/general use.
9 = 89
Y = Corvette
0123= 123rd 19Y numbers assigned.

So #102 would have been 10Y0XXX

This number was used for cost accounting and tracking purposes. Car would have been used by CPC until it reached 3000 miles then it could be sold.

There is a slight chance this number is typed on the Build Sheet somewhere.

One more area to check for info is on the actual tank sticker. Many tank stickers have addtional hand written notes on them abouve wht the NCM build sheet has.

Here is a comparison of #004's NCM sheet and what was left of the tank sticker.

http://www.syreal.com/builsheetsm.jpg

http://www.syreal.com/tankstickercropsmall.jpg

I think other then these two longshots the vehicle invoice may provide some addtional info. Ususally it will at least say when it was sold from CPC inventory. Eric

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Originally Posted by LGAFF (Post 173271)

The guy no one mentions often is Scott Leon, my understanding, and people can correct me if I am wrong, he oversaw alot of the ZR-1 testing in mesa. Scott also apparently played a role in many of the one off Z builds; including snakeskinner, etc

Lee do you think that Scott Leon would know anything on the Dieline ZR-1? It's certainly no production car but being that the company worked so closely with GM there may be some kind of "chance". I am still filling in some small gaps early on in the cars life.

Sorry everyone I didn't mean to hijack the thread!!

:cheers:

Daniel