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Dynomite 01-14-2014 11:05 PM

Re: Long cranking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Flame Restorations (Post 193236)
That was a well thought out modification to a repeatable issue....quarters kept falling all over my inner console area. Needed something to put them in. I like to think I'm a trend setter.:)

I removed the ash tray and just put the quarters in that rubber liner thingy. Did you put something under the flip top lid to hold quarters?

I use quarters LOTS.....carwash and Cappuccino at local Shell Station takes 8 quarters....exactly :cheers:

What I over pay in gas I spend on Cappuccino.....did I just say that nonsense :D

On the start issue of 3 seconds......I prefer a little lag in starting to get some oil pumping at starter rpm before it reves up after started if I have a foot on it.....a better chance to pump up them Chain Tensioners and Lifters that have leaked down ;)

Blue Flame Restorations 01-14-2014 11:12 PM

Re: Long cranking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynomite (Post 193238)
I removed the ash tray and just put the quarters in that rubber liner thingy. Did you put something under the flip top lid to hold quarters?

I use quarters LOTS.....carwash and Cappuccino at local Shell Station takes 8 quarters....exactly :cheers:

What I over pay in gas I spend on Cappuccino.....did I just say that nonsense :D

On the start issue of 3 seconds......I prefer a little lag in starting to get some oil pumping at starter rpm before it reves up after started if I have a foot on it.....a better chance to pump up them Chain Tensioners and Lifters that have leaked down ;)

The rubber liner thingy is now sitting under the console lid, safe and sound.....full of quarters :mrgreen:

Paul Workman 01-15-2014 02:58 AM

Re: Long cranking
 
Up to 3 seconds on my 90 as well, but tends to be shorter on a hot start. However, I'm in the habit of turning the key ON and listing to the fuel pumps settle before rolling the starter. It, seems to make a difference by maybe a second or so after sitting for a few days.

I read in one of my tech reference manuals that quick starts was one of the goals engineered into the Opti-Spark distributor on the LT1/4 motors. Anywayz, I mention that because that was one of the first things I noticed about my Z was the longer cranking time than my 95 LT1 Vette had. The 95 LT1 with its Opti would reliably fire practically instantly: hot or cold-COLD - it didn't usually matter!

Blue Flame Restorations 01-15-2014 07:25 AM

Re: Long cranking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Workman (Post 193255)
Up to 3 seconds on my 90 as well, but tends to be shorter on a hot start. However, I'm in the habit of turning the key ON and listing to the fuel pumps settle before rolling the starter. It, seems to make a difference by maybe a second or so after sitting for a few days.

I read in one of my tech reference manuals that quick starts was one of the goals engineered into the Opti-Spark distributor on the LT1/4 motors. Anywayz, I mention that because that was one of the first things I noticed about my Z was the longer cranking time than my 95 LT1 Vette had. The 95 LT1 with its Opti would reliably fire practically instantly: hot or cold-COLD - it didn't usually matter!

I agree. I always let the pumps run prior to starting.

Schrade 01-15-2014 11:33 AM

Re: Long cranking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone (Post 193218)
It has to find #1 before it starts

Where's Steve here - is this something that's coded into the ECM? Can you explain this a little more in depth?

This is pretty interesting here...

Does Marc's code over-write for hard hot re-starts have anything to do with the 'find #1 before starting' code?

Mine is the first fuel injected car I've ever owned, that didn't start immediately. I usually keep them tuned well, and mine is pretty cleaned up now (32k), and does start marginally faster with Marc's Memory / Calibration Module here...

Mystic ZR-1 01-15-2014 12:07 PM

Re: Long cranking
 
That "rubber liner thingy"? I've had 3 C4s 2
from new and didn't have one? Do the later cars,
91 on, have them? Often wondered what to do with my quarters...

We Gone 01-15-2014 12:16 PM

Re: Long cranking
 
My statement is a very abbreviated, It refuses section in the FSM 6E3-A-22 thru 29 and 6E3-A-52 & 53 basically when cranking the ECM must see the Camshaft sensor at #1 before it starts. I could be wrong but that's how I read it.

Schrade 01-15-2014 01:01 PM

Re: Long cranking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone (Post 193284)
My statement is a very abbreviated, It refuses section in the FSM 6E3-A-22 thru 29 and 6E3-A-52 & 53 basically when cranking the ECM must see the Camshaft sensor at #1 before it starts. I could be wrong but that's how I read it.

Thanks! You know more than I do here, and I'd sure like to learn more on it...

Looks like book time. Again. Still. Forever... :D

Dynomite 01-15-2014 01:10 PM

Re: Long cranking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic ZR-1 (Post 193283)
That "rubber liner thingy"? I've had 3 C4s 2
from new and didn't have one? Do the later cars,
91 on, have them? Often wondered what to do with my quarters...

I do not know if the Rubber Liner Thingys are stock or not....but.....you can get them on Ebay....but it will cost you 64 quarters :D

Rubber Liner Thingy on Ebay

I kind of like to spin the crankshaft with the starter a bit as the oil circulates just a tad before it revs up.....I forget exactly when the oil pressure starts showing on the gage but I think I recall oil pressure showing a tad when doing a compression test after a few crankshaft revolutions.....

We Gone 01-15-2014 01:25 PM

Re: Long cranking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic ZR-1 (Post 193283)
That "rubber liner thingy"? I've had 3 C4s 2
from new and didn't have one? Do the later cars,
91 on, have them? Often wondered what to do with my quarters...

Mid America also has them

http://www.mamotorworks.com/Corvette...ction-603188-1


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