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XfireZ51 12-24-2016 11:15 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
MMR was showing off a 6.2L DOHC LSx motor w 750hp N/A. Being able to get 720hp in NA form would simplify the packaging and stress on the motor. Could even pay for itself in weight savings when considering the additional cooling capacity needed on the FI Z06 LT4 motors.

Hog 12-24-2016 11:20 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LGAFF (Post 254567)
This could be the B2K LT-5 lol

Isnt that a cool thought!

cvette98pacecar 12-24-2016 11:51 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 254527)

Until we show that the ZR-1 is a Legacy Vehicle or cars are not going to be valued by the Corvette Community. The Reason the Grand Sport is sought after is due to the fact that it is a legacy vehicle.

http://www.corvetteonline.com/featur...es-ever-built/

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Originally Posted by oricale (Post 254537)
Hmmmmm.....��....new Merc DOHC?...

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Do you seriously think Mercruiser was developing a small block 4 cam head when they have a big block 1600HP LT5?

What if the new car comes out with the ZR1 moniker? Is it not a ZR-1 because there is no Hyphen in the moniker?

Just like Dave McLellan said, It is a Corvette just more so.

spork2367 12-24-2016 08:33 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
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Originally Posted by cvette98pacecar (Post 254575)
Until we show that the ZR-1 is a Legacy Vehicle or cars are not going to be valued by the Corvette Community. The Reason the Grand Sport is sought after is due to the fact that it is a legacy vehicle.

I don't think that's the mitigating factor. They only made 1000 total in one year. And even at that, the average price is still only 32,000.

Mystic ZR-1 12-24-2016 10:58 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
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Originally Posted by spork2367 (Post 254631)
I don't think that's the mitigating factor. They only made 1000 total in one year. And even at that, the average price is still only 32,000.

1000 paint jobs....

spork2367 12-24-2016 11:28 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
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Originally Posted by Mystic ZR-1 (Post 254636)
1000 paint jobs....

Which along with several other options, made the grand sport package. So they made 1000 grand sports. Am I missing something?

BigJohn 12-25-2016 01:00 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
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Originally Posted by spork2367 (Post 254638)
Which along with several other options, made the grand sport package. So they made 1000 grand sports. Am I missing something?

Yep,
The Grandsports for 1996 were just wheels and paint.
Even the paint color of the Grandsports wasn't popular without the white stripe.
The LT4 engine was in every 1996 Corvette with a manual transmission.

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DRM500RUBYZR-1 12-25-2016 01:18 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spork2367 (Post 254631)
I don't think that's the mitigating factor. They only made 1000 total in one year. And even at that, the average price is still only 32,000.

While the average may only be 32k, their original cost was likely around 50k.
That remains a much better proportionate value than the 64-69k ZR-1 with it's lower current average.
C-4 Grand sports were popular the day that they came out, and have stayed that way through today.
It caught me by surprise back then, but not any more.
Say what you want about it only being paint, but the cars, as already said, have remained strong in price since their introduction.
With only 1,000 made, that would suggest a strong likelihood that the demand will remain, and therefore keep the prices strong.
:cheers:
Marty

DRM500RUBYZR-1 12-25-2016 12:05 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvette98pacecar (Post 254575)
Until we show that the ZR-1 is a Legacy Vehicle or cars are not going to be valued by the Corvette Community. The Reason the Grand Sport is sought after is due to the fact that it is a legacy vehicle.

http://www.corvetteonline.com/featur...es-ever-built/



Do you seriously think Mercruiser was developing a small block 4 cam head when they have a big block 1600HP LT5?

What if the new car comes out with the ZR1 moniker? Is it not a ZR-1 because there is no Hyphen in the moniker?

Just like Dave McLellan said, It is a Corvette just more so.


Comments on the CNN Article.

First; CNN has proven over the years to be less than the authority on many topics, let alone investments, and even more particular, investments in automobiles.

As others have pointed out, the uniqueness of the car, as cited by the articles author, is it's paint scheme. All else is the same with any 96 LT-4 car. To then base the future value on the fact that there are only 1,000 of them, may reach the correct conclusion, BUT for the wrong reason.
If numbers are the determinant of value, than would not any "paint scheme" that is rare also be a good investment. Certainly there are Corvettes made in colors with far fewer numbers than the GS, does this mean they are the best investments?

You look further at his other choices, and they are based on rarity and POWER, but most of all Price SOLD.
There seems to be a HUGE gap between the 96.5k 62 fuelie and the 40k GS.
No 427 435'S?
No C-2 396's?
No 63 SWC's?
No C-6 ZR1's?

Where are the 58's?

Sorry.
As with much of their "news", it is more personal opinion than factual news.
Sad to say, their opining is no more correct than any one else including me, but I at least refer to mine as opinion, not news.

I continue to point out that I remain a fan of the C-4 GS, just think that to overlook C-4 ZR-1's or the 1 millionth Corvette, or the others listed above, and more, are weaknesses that cannot be overlooked.

Remember, they got the election wrong also.
:cheers:
Marty

George45 12-25-2016 12:40 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Not that I am complaining about my ZR1s and the fact they seemingly go unrecognised, but there Is really little to draw the average person to them. They are for all Intended purpose a slightly beefed up C4 with an engine that few backyard enthusiast are capable of working on. I mean just how difficult is it to jerk a manifold or heads off a LT1? How hard is it to install a new bump stick? What we have is a Unique piece of history with a very unique power plant that can be difficult to service. Without exception there are few capable of of properly servicing our cars and some parts are just not available. But walk in to a local big box auto parts store and you walk out with an arm load for your 1958 Vetted. The 90-95 ZR1s are a niche. We are dinosaurs. But I would have it no other way. It is the unique that drew me. It is the difficulty that attracts me. It is the wealth of information in our community that keeps me.It is a car that has yet to be fully appreciated by the masses.and it may never be. Does that bother me? No. I will continue my fascination with the car and the spirit it brings to me when driven and the pleasure it gives to just pull the cover off during the winter months and think of the summer.


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