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go_speed_go 08-24-2005 08:01 AM

No updates.
The car pretty much has a "we'll do what we can when there's spare time" status at it's current location. My dad upgraded his AAA membership to a much higher towing range which takes effect Saturday. If they don't have any progress this week, it'll probably go down to Conte's next week.

Scoob 08-24-2005 08:45 AM

Why Conte? Are they LT5 experts?

go_speed_go 08-24-2005 10:11 AM

They're Corvette experts. That's all they do.
More so, my dad trusts them 100%. He bought the car there 10 years ago. Knowing nobody else in the area good with a ZR1, he would bring it there (100 miles away) for most of it's periodic maintanence. During the maintenance visits, he's got to know Joe really well. They also have sources for decent used and reman parts, so we won't have to track things down the current dealer would not be willing to aquire on their own.

ShawnZR-1 08-24-2005 11:04 AM

So, at the moment, you are getting a no crank condition? Has the starter been replaced? Once water gets into the "V" and soaks the starter, it's toast- period! Ask me how I know!

www.tld-corvette.com has brand new ACDelco starters in stock for $150 all day long if you need one. Actually, they have lots of standard LT5 parts in stock including ECM's.

go_speed_go 08-24-2005 11:17 AM

Looking at the starter was the last update we got from the dealer last week.
I guess we were lucky it spun a few times before letting go.
They mentioned there was going to be several 'scheduled appointments' that had priority, so they'd continue with it when they could.

Z Factor 08-24-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_speed_go
They're Corvette experts. That's all they do.
More so, my dad trusts them 100%. He bought the car there 10 years ago. Knowing nobody else in the area good with a ZR1, he would bring it there (100 miles away) for most of it's periodic maintanence.

I think you are located in NJ, right? You may want to put in your general location via your Control Panel (User CP), so that other local ZR-1 owners can offer a hand or local advice if they know where you are located.

A friend of mine in NY said he knows of a place called the The Vette Doctors which work on ZR-1's. I know you said your dad is happy with the dealership, but it cant hurt to give them a call and see what they have to say if the dealership cant get it running.

The Vette Doctors
26 Elm Place
Amityville, NY 11701
631-841-0779

:cheers:

Scoob 08-24-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_speed_go
They're Corvette experts. That's all they do.
More so, my dad trusts them 100%. He bought the car there 10 years ago. Knowing nobody else in the area good with a ZR1, he would bring it there (100 miles away) for most of it's periodic maintanence. During the maintenance visits, he's got to know Joe really well. They also have sources for decent used and reman parts, so we won't have to track things down the current dealer would not be willing to aquire on their own.

Cool. I know about them from their sales site, I just didn't know about their LT5 service capabilities.

In fact they had on their lot a car that I lusted after for a long time, but the price just wasn't right.

Fort94z 08-25-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_speed_go
Looking at the starter was the last update we got from the dealer last week.
I guess we were lucky it spun a few times before letting go.
They mentioned there was going to be several 'scheduled appointments' that had priority, so they'd continue with it when they could.


I saw your car in the parking lot of the dealership today. It didn't look too bad considering what happened. I wish you the best of luck with the repairs.

If their unable to do the job for you, I highly recommend the Vette Doctors also. They did some work on my car. They know Zr-1's inside and out. http://www.zr1netregistry.com/forum/...s/thumbsup.gif

go_speed_go 08-25-2005 08:14 PM

Thanks for the additional endorsement for the Vette Doctors. I'll give them a call about their rates and backlog of work.

For the most part, there's relatively light scratches in the hood from the bottom of the fence , a crack in the rearmost leftmost corner of the hood, and the bumper cover is a little out of joint. It was amazingly minimal in appearance. Hopefully if the motor is good, the suspension and underside won't be too bad off either. Rossi has had the car up in the air at least once to drain all the fluids, and they had no comments about anything underneath looking blatantly out of place.

Patton 08-29-2005 08:28 PM

Smile, You're not dead
 
Quote:

I still can't close my eyes without seeing that fence. I have spoken to other drivers who've been through similar experiences and my state of trauma or shock is normal, but still very difficult. I can't sleep well, don't have an appetite, and can't relax for more than 30 minutes at a time before my pulse jumps and I start sweating, thinking about everything all over again. I'm very lucky as well to have an understanding boss who'll let my productivity slide for a bit.

Well I was discharged from the military several months ago, try every time you close your eyes you see a 10 year old boys face after 7 or 8 rounds of 5.56mm. That'll **** your productivity up somethin fierce.

Going through a fence and dukes of hazarding into the drink sounds like fun memories to me! Sure you messed your dads car up and that sucks but dont forget how lucky you are to wake up every day by an alarm clock and not a mortar round. Some people have to live that way and they didnt even sign up in any military, its just thier way of life. Im not trying to be an *******, just trying to help you cope... Nobody died, learn to laugh a little.
But seriously good luck with her and I hope you get it all worked out soon.

go_speed_go 08-29-2005 10:49 PM

I'm doing a lot better now.
Time heals, it just never seems like it'll be fast enough. In time, I'm sure we'll laugh about it, just not anytime soon. My dad previously was thinking about getting a Z06 when he retires. I asked him recently what good all the extra power would do, besides allowing me to jump it 10 feet further. :mrgreen:

I'd gladly drive through 1000 fences instead of having your memories.

Kevin 08-29-2005 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patton
Well I was discharged from the military several months ago, try every time you close your eyes you see a 10 year old boys face after 7 or 8 rounds of 5.56mm. That'll **** your productivity up somethin fierce.

Going through a fence and dukes of hazarding into the drink sounds like fun memories to me! Sure you messed your dads car up and that sucks but dont forget how lucky you are to wake up every day by an alarm clock and not a mortar round. Some people have to live that way and they didnt even sign up in any military, its just thier way of life. Im not trying to be an *******, just trying to help you cope... Nobody died, learn to laugh a little.
But seriously good luck with her and I hope you get it all worked out soon.

yeah I'm sure that helped.

Patton 08-30-2005 07:06 PM

Dear sweet Kevin,

My goal was to express to the man that there are much worse things in life and to not feel so down on himself, what good words have you said to him other than hounding him for his vin and saying "it'll be okay"? Really helped him out there didnt you?

Kevin 08-30-2005 11:18 PM

anger management needed much?

Patton 08-31-2005 06:28 PM

Once a week for over 2 years now,... Doesn’t seem to be as effective as I hoped for. :sign10: GOOOOSFRABA.....

I say its uncle Sam’s fault, after basic I went through a special warfare program and one day for no apparent reason (we had already received every immunization known to man.) they gave all the recruits 12 shots of mystery juice..... The week after that all of our hair fell out and many of us had to be hospitalized and dropped from the program. My behavior patterns have NEVER been the same. I’m sure my grandkids will read about all the facts in 50 years or so about the "experiments". So bear with me. I guess what I meant to say was,...

Gee Kevin, I think your mean spirited comment about my post was a regretful misallocation of your valuable time and resources. Perhaps in the future you should redirect that time and energy to the betterment of yourself as a human being, in the hopes that one day man kind will reap the benefits of your bountiful wisdom. Have an outstanding day!

Hmmm,... see this version just lacks the snap and good wholesome fun of the last one. Maybe if I could work a "stomp a mud hole in your head" bit into it somewhere... food for thought!

go_speed_go 09-21-2005 09:39 AM

The car arrived at Conte's last week.
We should finally hear something by next week.

While we've been waiting, I've done some research and realized that if the motor is sound, the car's parts value makes it almost more worthwhile to part it out and put the money towards another ZR1 (and keep that one dry).

I'm still pushing my father towards fixing it and keeping it for a while longer. I think that if the repairs/restoration are done right and documented with lots of photos, the car's value shouldn't wind up drastically lower than normal. This would only be if nothing strange happens with the car for at least a year or two afterwards.

phrogs 09-21-2005 09:42 AM

Well depending on how bad everything looks will determine the big picture I think.

any thoughts to what your dad would want for the car if he desides not to fix it?

go_speed_go 09-21-2005 10:04 AM

It would all depend on whether or not the motor is sound.

If he decides it's not worth fixing, we'll probably accept offers for the whole car first. Determining what's a worthwhile offer will be arbitrary, but would probably have to be around the value of the easy to sell/valuable parts on the car - motor, tranny, rear, windshield, etc minus the effort involved in parting the car out.

In our conversation about this avenue, he's said the funds likely would not go towards another Corvette. For that reason, I'm encouraging him to keep the ZR1.

MIZR1 09-23-2005 01:17 PM

Patton, any thoughts of a new career as a stand up comedian? Your second reply to Kevin was hilarious. Thanks for the chuckle.

go_speed_go 10-25-2005 03:32 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
After a lot of waiting the verdict is finally in :-({|=

"They then proceeded with compression testing. The compression is coming back with a wide range of results which indicates engine damage. The bad valves are in the front, so hydro lock is the probable cause. He could do further work, but that means taking the engine apart. It'll probably cost more to do that than the car is worth."

Looks like we'll either be parting it out or selling it as a project/parts car.

Anyone interested PM me with offers for parts or the car itself. Conte's has offered to help part the car out, but I don't know how that role will exactly work. Solid interest in parts or the car itself will influence what we decide to do with it.

I'm on my way out of town for the next few days to help my grandmother in Ft Lauderdale. Any messages sent after tomorrow morning won't get reply until Sunday or early next week.

Thanks again for all the morale support. I wish this were going to turn out better, but I'm alive and well so I can't complain too much.

A1990 10-25-2005 03:51 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
check your mail PM sent

Jeffvette 10-25-2005 05:54 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A1990
check your mail PM sent

Vulture



:D

A1990 10-25-2005 09:47 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffvette
Vulture



:D

I didn't ask for ALL the good stuff!! Just the stuff I knew you'd want:hello:

Kevin 10-25-2005 10:55 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by go_speed_go
After a lot of waiting the verdict is finally in :-({|=

"They then proceeded with compression testing. The compression is coming back with a wide range of results which indicates engine damage. The bad valves are in the front, so hydro lock is the probable cause. He could do further work, but that means taking the engine apart. It'll probably cost more to do that than the car is worth."

Looks like we'll either be parting it out or selling it as a project/parts car.

Anyone interested PM me with offers for parts or the car itself. Conte's has offered to help part the car out, but I don't know how that role will exactly work. Solid interest in parts or the car itself will influence what we decide to do with it.

I'm on my way out of town for the next few days to help my grandmother in Ft Lauderdale. Any messages sent after tomorrow morning won't get reply until Sunday or early next week.

Thanks again for all the morale support. I wish this were going to turn out better, but I'm alive and well so I can't complain too much.


rear plate frame
center radio trim piece

A1990 10-25-2005 11:12 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
rear plate frame=ebay item 8008219796

Kevin 10-26-2005 08:44 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A1990
rear plate frame=ebay item 8008219796

thanks but more then I'm willing to pay

Z Factor 12-30-2005 11:20 AM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
I heard somewhere that it is up for sale as a salvage but have not had a confirmation:confused:

go_speed_go 12-30-2005 11:34 AM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
eBay item# 4599542969

New owner is picking the car up on Monday.

BBBAD94ZR1 12-30-2005 01:04 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
The car is actually at Contes corvette in Vineland NJ. I looked at the car its a good parts ZR1.
Its on ebay buy look at the above site for futher info.

RAY

phrogs 12-30-2005 01:05 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z Factor
I heard somewhere that it is up for sale as a salvage but have not had a confirmation:confused:


Oh it sold but has a clear title wouldnt be hard to fix as long as you have all the electronics swaped out and thats not to hard to acomplish

BBBAD94ZR1 12-30-2005 01:10 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
Im not to sure about that, hopefully the water did not damage the engine.
The entire engine needs to be flushed out. Its amazing what water can do if left even for a few hours, neverless weeks.
I wish the new owner nothing but good luck.
RAY

phrogs 12-30-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBBAD94ZR1
Im not to sure about that, hopefully the water did not damage the engine.
The entire engine needs to be flushed out. Its amazing what water can do if left even for a few hours, neverless weeks.
I wish the new owner nothing but good luck.
RAY


That is something that I would do I would tear it down to inspect everything but im not ever really worried about water thats just me its easier to fix a water damaged car than it is to fix a wrecked car frame damge body damage will usually always be able to be detected water damage if done correctly will not be noticed

go_speed_go 01-03-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Please help save a ZR1
 
The car was picked up by it's new owner yesterday.
He always wanted a ZR1, but didn't like the price tag.

He intends to restore it and put it back on the road.


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