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Z51JEFF 01-22-2014 11:36 PM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
Im in Fremont,stop by and Ill take a look.

Okiedoke 01-26-2014 03:02 AM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone (Post 193492)
Does the window seal against the top of rear pillar seal as it goes up with out the top on? How does it fit at the front pillar seal? If there is a gap at the top, the window may need to be adjusted. Tilted in at the top.

I got the top off today. As the window goes up, it's far against the rear pillar seal. However, it's flush against the rear pillar seal when it gets to the top.

I also used the weather strip adhesive and was able to get the weather strip a bit higher at the end. However, it wasn't even close to having enough clearance. I then compared this window to the passenger's side window and noticed what I think may be the problem. On the passenger side, when the window is up, the glass is evenly spaced across the top under the weather strip. Feeling under the weather strip, there's still some space between the top of the glass and the top of the inside of the weather strip. Between the glass and the pillar, the space is even from top to bottom.

Now, on the driver side, there's space between the top of the glass and the top of the weather strip at the front of the window. At the rear (right side) of the window, it's pushing tightly against the inside top of the weather strip. At the rear pillar, there's more space at the top between the glass and the pillar than at the bottom. It's almost like the window is rotated too far counter clockwise. Is there a way to rotate the window slightly clockwise? Here's a picture:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psc1a1256a.jpg

Okiedoke 01-26-2014 03:09 AM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 193655)

The split in the weather-strip - I'm going to leave that alone. I have never attempted to "fill" the void but I've known people that have. The results, I'm not sure of their level of satisfaction. A short minor split "filled" might be the preferred vs. an after-market replacement. I seriously doubt that you created the issue in your attempt to secure it.

3M 8008 I would think the preferred over the 8011 product.

A product to fill the seam? I don't know but I'll ask someone who I believe did this OR maybe someone here has done similar and will respond.

I ended up just using the 3M 8008 adhesive to seal the tear. This stuff is tricky to work with and you can easily make quite a mess with it. It actually worked pretty well for the tear.

Z51JEFF 01-26-2014 08:58 AM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiedoke (Post 194307)
I got the top off today. As the window goes up, it's far against the rear pillar seal. However, it's flush against the rear pillar seal when it gets to the top.

I also used the weather strip adhesive and was able to get the weather strip a bit higher at the end. However, it wasn't even close to having enough clearance. I then compared this window to the passenger's side window and noticed what I think may be the problem. On the passenger side, when the window is up, the glass is evenly spaced across the top under the weather strip. Feeling under the weather strip, there's still some space between the top of the glass and the top of the inside of the weather strip. Between the glass and the pillar, the space is even from top to bottom.

Now, on the driver side, there's space between the top of the glass and the top of the weather strip at the front of the window. At the rear (right side) of the window, it's pushing tightly against the inside top of the weather strip. At the rear pillar, there's more space at the top between the glass and the pillar than at the bottom. It's almost like the window is rotated too far counter clockwise. Is there a way to rotate the window slightly clockwise? Here's a picture:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psc1a1256a.jpg

There are several adjustments inside the door,sounds like one might be loose.Was the door ever apart,was something recently replaced?Ive been inside these doors and the adjustments will fix the problem.One adjustment is a stop and 2,front-back are stops and guides.As the window comes up its caught in a hook type guide that curves the top of the window in at the top.Whats the story with the car,how long have you had it,recently replaced the WS?

We Gone 01-26-2014 09:22 AM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
What Jeff said, I will add look in your FSM 10-6-1 thru 10-6-13 before you start, also take a sharpie and outline the bolt heads so you can always move them back in case you adjust the wrong one. Take your time.

Okiedoke 01-26-2014 01:44 PM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z51JEFF (Post 194313)
There are several adjustments inside the door,sounds like one might be loose.Was the door ever apart,was something recently replaced?Ive been inside these doors and the adjustments will fix the problem.One adjustment is a stop and 2,front-back are stops and guides.As the window comes up its caught in a hook type guide that curves the top of the window in at the top.Whats the story with the car,how long have you had it,recently replaced the WS?

I bought the car a couple of months ago. It had 18k miles and had been in storage for a while before the dealer bought it about 2 years ago. The dealer replaced the injectors, injector seals, plenum gasket, fuel feed and return pipe seals, oil change with Mobile 1 extended perf & Bosch 3401 filter, repaired driver's side seat rack, replaced relay to fix the ABS light, and repaired/rebuilt the receiver and 4 amps. They really like and cared for the car. I think they brought it to a show in Monterey last year and also gave me the dyno from after they replaced the injectors. The dealer worked on the and drove the car for 2k miles, so it was 20k when I got it. I have all the paperwork and receipts except for the relay. Unfortunately, I don't know the history of the car other than the owner having passed away and his wife sold his collection. The owner seemed to have been a member of this registry in the late 90's since there are stickers on the rear windshield from 1996-1999.

So now, I'm trying to fix the things that I'm noticing and hearing. Since I've never driven a pristine Z before, I don't know how it's supposed to feel and sound. So I'm posting them here and working on them one by one. I'm really appreciative of all the knowledge on this forum and everyone's willingness to help.

I have not replaced the weather strip. I think they're all original. I don't know if the door panel's been opened before. However, now that you mention it, I do hear a vibration in the driver side door whereas the passenger side is quiet.

Okiedoke 01-26-2014 01:57 PM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone (Post 194316)
What Jeff said, I will add look in your FSM 10-6-1 thru 10-6-13 before you start, also take a sharpie and outline the bolt heads so you can always move them back in case you adjust the wrong one. Take your time.

Thanks for the tip. I finally get to use the service manual ;)

Z51JEFF 01-26-2014 05:08 PM

Re: Window closes outside weather strip
 
Another thing to keep in mind if the WS was replaced with some of the aftermarket stuff it will cause problems with the window.


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