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Demps 06-16-2010 09:11 PM

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Sorry guys for being delinquent. Been busy lately. Yes I finished the install. Carter's stuff is amazing and works well. I could not find a machine shop close by that wanted the business to modify the stock stuff and Carter offered to help. AMAZING.

I've tried to put some miles on the car. It is everything I wanted. I also lowered the car about an inch and a half all around. Looks great. I'll get a write up soon.

Big 40 is this Saturday and we are having a blow out party. So maybe after.

Ted

4DSZR1 06-16-2010 10:38 PM

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:occasion1:occasion1:cheers::cheers:

Happy Birthday Ted.

secondchance 06-17-2010 08:31 AM

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Happy Birthday!:occasion1

-=Jeff=- 06-17-2010 08:41 AM

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Happy 40th Vader!!!!

-=Jeff=- 06-21-2010 10:43 PM

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Any pictures of the rear mount yet?

Polo-1 06-21-2010 10:45 PM

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back at post #66

-=Jeff=- 06-21-2010 10:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo-1 (Post 92399)
back at post #66

Thanks forgot about that one

Demps 06-22-2010 09:55 AM

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Before

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/adf13ae0.jpg

modified bracket (must open frame to fit)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/8a2d949a.jpg

had to shave top urethane bushing to fit gear on with increased thickness
note offset

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/873696c5.jpg

I'm on the road. This is from iPhone. Will completely detail when I return.

Ted

installed

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/e8d59e4f.jpg

-=Jeff=- 07-05-2010 09:06 PM

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So you have instructions for the mounts from Carter yet?

Demps 07-06-2010 09:46 PM

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The Coil Over Installation Process
Jim Milstead, DRM and JeffVette all contributed to the pre-process. The following links are where I started.
Rears[/URL]
click the link then replace the *s with CF spelled out
Fronts[/URL]
click the link then replace the *s with CF spelled out
So, good start. I did not like some parts of it. In comes Carter. Here's where I departed and some lessons learned.

Get the car on jacks as high as you can. Remove the old stuff per the service manual. You will need a puller to remove the tie rods and spindle in the front.
*****TIP*****
Remove the lower and upper A-arms completely. It will help remove the spring and then spread out the mount.
I had all of the old stuff removed in about two hours. It took two months to get it back together.
*****TIP*****
Have all of the parts necessary prior to starting. Carter has a tremendous start on this--now.
I did not want to cut into my front frame area. Carter made these mounting devices and I replaced the stock sway bar mounting brackets with Energy Suspension brackets (see picture) from Autozone for a 1inch sway bar.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/0b9d5fef.jpg
The stock bolts will not do to mount into the frame. You need bolts long enough to go through the block into the frame. Size is 10mm x 1.5 pitch. Two long for the outsides and one smaller for the inside (threaded). You can see how I did it here:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/fc77cb5e.jpg
*****TIP*****
Fronts are fairly straight forward.

Now for the fun--Rears.
You will need to mill the head and reverse the suspension mounting bolts per Milstead's thread above.
Get a pry bar.
I did not like the weld then drill method for the old mounts--did have the resources. Carter made some great mounting brackets but they require shaving the upper urethane bushing. I figured it only mounts the gear and the bracket and bushing insert take up the slack.
*****TIP******
Get a dremel with a quick attachment cutting wheel. After I figured this out I was done in an hour. Use it to open the rear frame area. I did not have the necessary tools or experience to accomplish Milstead's write up opening. It also would have required removing most/all of the rear suspension. I used a grinding bit on an air compressor small grider to round the corners.
Here's what I did:
Old
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/adf13ae0.jpg
New
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/873696c5.jpg
Carter's Bracket
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/56e43283.jpg
Mounted on frame:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/8a2d949a.jpg

Ted

Demps 07-06-2010 09:49 PM

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http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/ca4fbed2.jpg



http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/e8d59e4f.jpg


*****TIP*****
Do not adjust the coil height with the shock gear attached. It may twist the gear despite your best efforts not to. ALSO, MAKE SURE THE GEAR IS SEATED PROPERLY PRIOR TO PUTTING IT ALL BACK TOGETHER!!!




Okay: what else?
Ted


carter200 07-06-2010 10:20 PM

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Ted,
You have done a great job of illustrating and documenting the coil over installation kit of ours. I have some "new" pics of the upper brackets I'll post if someone can tell me how to or I can email them to someone to post.
Thanks for all your hard work on this project. I will be mailing the first rear kit to -=Jeff=- this week. With all you have to do it is appreciated that you took the time to do this, thanks again! salute

-=Jeff=- 07-07-2010 08:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demps (Post 93206)
*****TIP*****
Do not adjust the coil height with the shock gear attached. It may twist the gear despite your best efforts not to. ALSO, MAKE SURE THE GEAR IS SEATED PROPERLY PRIOR TO PUTTING IT ALL BACK TOGETHER!!!

meaning, have the actuator removed when adjusting?

EDIT: also thanks for putting this together

HAWAIIZR-1 07-07-2010 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carter200 (Post 93207)
Ted,
You have done a great job of illustrating and documenting the coil over installation kit of ours. I have some "new" pics of the upper brackets I'll post if someone can tell me how to or I can email them to someone to post.
Thanks for all your hard work on this project. I will be mailing the first rear kit to -=Jeff=- this week. With all you have to do it is appreciated that you took the time to do this, thanks again! salute

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j8...arbrackets.jpg

Okay, here are -=JEFF=-'s pair!!!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j8...rbracket-1.jpg

Here is a close up of the bracket and note how it is radiused.

Carter is one heck of a Master Machinist!!!!

:cheers:

-=Jeff=- 07-07-2010 10:53 PM

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SWEEET!!!!!!

Thanks Carter

Thanks for posting pics Craig

HAWAIIZR-1 07-07-2010 10:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 93287)
SWEEET!!!!!!

Thanks Carter

Thanks for posting pics Craig

Jeff, you're welcome.

Carter, your machine work rocks big time. I'm brainstorming the next project for you..............

-=Jeff=- 07-24-2010 10:16 AM

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Hey demps,

what do you mean by this:

http://zr1.net/forum/showpost.php?p=93221&postcount=94

Demps 07-24-2010 10:43 AM

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I could not prevent the upper portion from rotating. Also, you cannot verify the rears are not rotating. I twistedthe rears enough that I, luckily, popped the rear actuator off-- vice damaging it.

-=Jeff=- 07-24-2010 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demps (Post 94153)
I could not prevent the upper portion from rotating. Also, you cannot verify the rears are not rotating. I twistedthe rears enough that I, luckily, popped the rear actuator off-- vice damaging it.


so to adjust ride height you need to unbolt the shock plate before turning the bottom adjuster?


Thanks for all your help/work

Demps 07-24-2010 10:50 AM

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Yes. It is best. I used a strap wrench to try and hold it steady but the coil or shaft turned the top gear. I set the height I though I wanted then drove the car a few miles and let it settle.
Ted

-=Jeff=- 07-24-2010 10:55 AM

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how did you determine what the ride height would be with the shock? I was going to base the rear setting of of what I have for the front. Thanks

Demps 07-24-2010 11:04 AM

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Out of town so I can't check. The rears are more than the fronts--almost double but that is from memory.

-=Jeff=- 07-24-2010 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demps (Post 94159)
Out of town so I can't check. The rears are more than the fronts--almost double but that is from memory.

almost double?

Ugh..

So how do you hold the threaded sleeve in place while adjusting?

pantera1683 09-09-2010 05:19 AM

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Carter,

I would like to purchase a set of your custom mounts. How much?

carter200 09-09-2010 08:39 AM

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Kris,
PM answered. :-D

GOLDCYLON 09-12-2010 12:56 AM

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Carter's the man.... Nuff said. Thanks for your support Carter to this forum and its members. Nothing but the highest quality. GC

carter200 09-12-2010 01:06 AM

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GC,
Thanks for the kind words and I am glad to do all I can. :cheers:


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