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Schrade 05-25-2014 02:58 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
Cool.

All I noticed was 23# holding pressure @ idle (static FP test is primed FP only, motor off).

-=Jeff=- 05-25-2014 04:27 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
That is on my list.. Along with auto down windows

Karl 05-26-2014 07:48 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
Well my car still runs bad.

It worked fine for two trips. After changing the fuel pumps and strainers I assumed (yeah I know) all was good and did not check the fuel pressure.

Car started right up and no cold start issues. Went downtown and ran a few errands, sat in traffic, and had no problem passing on the expressway.

I let the car sit for a few hours and the symptoms came right back. Maybe they never went away.

New fuel pumps, strainers, and filters.

Here are 4 videos I made.

* Ignition on, no start.
* Ignition off after no start
* Start up
* Shut off

http://feed1.tinypic.com/rss.php?ua=...0gbgs0BA%3D%3D

I am lost. Only thing I can think off is the fuel pressure regulator or maybe the ECM due to this thread with the same similar start up issues.

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread....=fuel+pressure

I see no leaks anywhere and all the lines are nice and tight.

Thanks for the help.

XfireZ51 05-26-2014 09:11 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
MAP sensor hose? Pop off? Has oil?

Schrade 05-26-2014 09:28 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
Alright - maybe let's do static pressure test, and leakdown time.

Plug in FP guage, turn on key to prime rails. If it's not @ 43+ PSI, turn the key off and on again.

If you don't get it then, GENTLY pinch the fuel return line, and prime the rails again (this will NOT yet rule out the FPR), but will tell a line leak, or leaking injector, or (not likely), a bad pump check valve.

Post back on that...

And cold starts and running like bats from Hades means NOTHING. (and do bats actually 'run'??? maybe they do, to V1, then roll flaps and go for V2?)

Karl 05-26-2014 09:39 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
Where can I pinch the fuel return line?

Only place I can think of is the return line to the tank in the rear.

Also I will check the map sensor.

Schrade 05-26-2014 09:45 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
Pinch at the P side line at the back of the motor on top at the passenger side. Follow the rail crossover to determine which is feed and which is return. The one coming from the FPR is return.

Some more snappics here.

Start with a light pinch - you don't want to damage the line.


edit:
Front one is return line. Pinch THAT one.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H.../IMG_6013c.JPG

Karl 05-26-2014 10:28 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
I am pretty sure I just found the problem and will have it fixed in the morning. Will report in the morning. Thanks again!

Schrade 05-27-2014 02:59 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 204203)
I am pretty sure I just found the problem and will have it fixed in the morning. Will report in the morning. Thanks again!

What was it there Karl?

You know what they say about minds that enquire, and the yen for knowledge...

Dynomite 05-27-2014 03:39 PM

Re: testing the ALCL. poor cold start running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 204259)
What was it there Karl?

You know what they say about minds that enquire, and the yen for knowledge...

:happy1:


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