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BigJohn 12-27-2016 12:24 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
I guess you need to buy a ford!

spork2367 12-27-2016 01:35 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM500RUBYZR-1 (Post 254674)
As others have pointed out, the uniqueness of the car, as cited by the articles author, is it's paint scheme. All else is the same with any 96 LT-4 car. To then base the future value on the fact that there are only 1,000 of them, may reach the correct conclusion, BUT for the wrong reason.
If numbers are the determinant of value, than would not any "paint scheme" that is rare also be a good investment. Certainly there are Corvettes made in colors with far fewer numbers than the GS, does this mean they are the best investments?

You look further at his other choices, and they are based on rarity and POWER, but most of all Price SOLD.
There seems to be a HUGE gap between the 96.5k 62 fuelie and the 40k GS.
No 427 435'S?
No C-2 396's?
No 63 SWC's?
No C-6 ZR1's?

Where are the 58's?

Sorry.
As with much of their "news", it is more personal opinion than factual news.
Sad to say, their opining is no more correct than any one else including me, but I at least refer to mine as opinion, not news.

I continue to point out that I remain a fan of the C-4 GS, just think that to overlook C-4 ZR-1's or the 1 millionth Corvette, or the others listed above, and more, are weaknesses that cannot be overlooked.

Remember, they got the election wrong also.
:cheers:
Marty

Except that the paint isn't the only unique feature. It's the flares, wheels/tires, and specific combo of options with the paint. And it's the name. Which is why just a rare color isn't a fair comparison.
In terms of why the grand sport has retained more value than the zr1, as a percentage of original cost...It's the name, with the options, with the fact that the engines are easily worked on and repaired, with the fact that there were only 1000 in one year vs, what, 6600 over 5 years. Keep in mind we're making a comparison in the world of c4's, the least desirable generation. Go back even one generation and comparisons to c4's become much more abstract.

And grand sports still aren't worth a lot.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282302957643

BigJohn 12-27-2016 01:53 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Heck even my Camaro has an LT4!

DRM500RUBYZR-1 12-27-2016 03:00 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spork2367 (Post 254773)
Except that the paint isn't the only unique feature. It's the flares, wheels/tires, and specific combo of options with the paint. And it's the name. Which is why just a rare color isn't a fair comparison.
In terms of why the grand sport has retained more value than the zr1, as a percentage of original cost...It's the name, with the options, with the fact that the engines are easily worked on and repaired, with the fact that there were only 1000 in one year vs, what, 6600 over 5 years. Keep in mind we're making a comparison in the world of c4's, the least desirable generation. Go back even one generation and comparisons to c4's become much more abstract.

And grand sports still aren't worth a lot.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282302957643

I cannot think of very many 1996 cars that have a realistic asking price that is close to 75% of the MSRP today.
That may not be a lot in your book, but it sure is in mine.

Ferraris and Lamborghinis have engines every bit as complex as the ZR-1, that backyard mechanics wouldn't touch even if they could afford them. Parts are rare too.
However, I don't hear that as any reason cited for not paying up for those cars, or having an effect on overall pricing.

You also make an assumption that C-4's will somehow always remain the least desirable generation.
Not as sure as you about that.
Let's re-visit it in 20 years!
The same thing was once said about C-3's years back.
It took a long while to change, but change it did.

Happy New Year!
:cheers:
Marty

DRM500RUBYZR-1 12-27-2016 03:02 PM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigJohn (Post 254776)
Heck even my Camaro has an LT4!

:sign10:

Happy New Year!
:cheers:
Marty

twowire 12-28-2016 12:24 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Not sure if you guys already seen this post from CF, but it shows the official GM letter with LT5 listed. Several post say the LT5 will never fit into the C7.
The c4 LT5 dimensions are around 27" wide, 27" long, and 26-1/6" high, but don't know what the physical dimensions are of the LT4 motor itself?
Also, those spy shots on you tube of the front engine 2018 ZR1 (raised hood) - in Colorado, they seemed to sound like an LT5 - check out the youtube link below for the sound.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...8-already.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPiNMFKIsz8

S.hafsmo 12-28-2016 11:03 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
In purely practical terms I'd say it would be rather annoying if they were to label it LT5. It's already annoying not being able to search for ZR-1 anywhere, without only finding C6's and such.

BigJohn 12-28-2016 11:12 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Such???

S.hafsmo 12-28-2016 11:14 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Googling C7 ZR1 currently gives 422 000 results. Not too many on Ebay, though. :)

BigJohn 12-28-2016 11:22 AM

Re: new doch 32 valve vette engine on its way
 
Is it not that the new ZR1 will be a C8!


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