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Last bolt, w/ alt bracket + emission pipe... WTH is that hairy jam in that hole? :censored:
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I saw a couple of them &*%$ers tryin' to dodge the rag, and I know there's more of 'em hidin' in there...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--...0/HPIM7367.JPG so I introduced 'em to Mr. Shop-Vac. They didn't look happy gettin' bounced from that party either, goin' through the tube :p https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3...0/HPIM7366.JPG |
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Sink (loosely) the last 2 bolts, at the Alt-to-IH bracket, make sure everybody is happy (note to self - don't forget to lock down the Alt bolt)
and how 'bout that custom snapped off IAC locking tang (inset; upper right); should be good for a few HP??? I don't know WHAT to do about that... :confused: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...0/HPIM7369.JPG |
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Schrade. Lookin' good so far. Cleaned up really nice. My IAC tang is gone too. Just curious. Are you going to test the fuel injectors before installation for leak down or sticking?
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Transplant surgery. I sure didn't know that rail / injector assemblies could NOT be inserted whole :o . When I tried it earlier, just one side, it almost went, except for #6 primary (secondary? like I said, I don't know much) (which was difficult also by itself, here). Try to keep these guys outta' the dirt between the rail and the IH. As far as I'm concerned, they are STERILE... https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z...0/HPIM7370.JPG clips in the oil drink https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...0/HPIM7373.JPG one home, 7 to go. This one fit snug. I gave it a roll, to make sure the O-ring was seated happy, and it is. But, each secondary INJ did not sit as snug as each primary ??? https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...0/HPIM7371.JPG P side; 8 home. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...0/HPIM7374.JPG |
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I actually did sink the injectors before torque-ing the IH bolts. Said it before; I'll say it again - I don't know this mill like some others of you here... wish more of ya' would chime in here before I screw up.
I did 5 'circuits' , torque-ing the bolts; center outward (DO THEY NEED RE-TORQUE-ING, AFTER X MILES???) . And my torque wrench - ratchet-type, isn't calibrated. I can 'feel' better with the smaller ratchet... WHAT IS TORQUE SPEC??? Anyway, https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/IMG_5896.JPG then set the clamp on the CC tube (in a different spot thAn before!!! ) https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L...0/IMG_5899.JPG Grub break :mad: I hate breakin' for grub when wrench hackin'. :mad: |
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Schrade, According to the LT5 service manual supplement the torque spec for the IH is 19 lb ft . Be sure to secure spark plug wire harness retainer with injector housing rear bolt on right and left sides. should be in your pics somewhere.
Coolant outlet pipes are 89 lb in. Fuel rail to IH is 19 lb ft Manual doesn't specify re-torque after installation so I would make sure you hit those torque numbers on the money with your torque wrench. At least 3 circuits around. There is no sequence in the manual as where to start but I do center out in a circle. Note: these torque specs for the IH and fuel rail is different in the general engine section 6. That section indicates 20 lb ft instead of 19 lbft. Strange. |
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Hose end after wire wheel (NOT over rail!!! )
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Half a yard bird, snap beans and 'taters, down in 5 minutes! I know that's just what ya' wanted to see... https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...1102132144.jpg Moly grease, THIN film, both sides of coolant man gasket https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...0/IMG_5904.JPG set loose https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...0/IMG_5906.JPG torqued, with crossover elbow temp set https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_...0/HPIM7378.JPG |
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di-electric grease in the INJ connector sockets
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...0/HPIM7379.JPG to hold the wayward gaskets in place! https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...0/HPIM7380.JPG ALMOST TIME TO SET THE CLOCK BACK, AND HACK FOR ANOTHER HOUR! http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...ps164d765d.gif On second thought here..................... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/yawn.gif |
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I noticed you have the injectors set in place in the IH. Assuming you will set the fuel rail down on to them... just to let you know that when you place the fuel rails on top of the injectors it may be necessary to move the injectors upward into the rail a little bit to get the clips to seat correctly. I discovered this the hard way.
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Didn't miss the SP wire loom clip... That was the purpose of dry-fit 'practice'. No matter; I'll still miss something by the time it's time to pull the trigger. L98, I missed the Cold Start Injector seal; LT1, I missed the MAF connector; this mill; time will tell... :pray If I'm lucky [cough cough], only the hesitation will remain. And maybe not ........ ........................................ |
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Schrade; You got that right....
Got mine running tonite, just in time for a major snowfall.. Chickened out on going for a test drive. But It sure runs nice!!!!! Good Luck with yours. |
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And I saw my clamp on the CC crossover tube, thinking it looks a little tight, then I saw your post. I don't know how I'd cut it and make a stint of any sort??? And Cliff; the PCV cap REALLY swelled in the Trans-X. It will get non-hardening RTV, on the valve sides of course, not IN the cap, so as not to block the valves... |
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Schrade; Started out fixing the starter solenoid contacts, ($3.00 item)
But then, already got the Plenum and IH off, might as well get them ported.. The finish on the Plenum was showing its age, So Powder Coat looks good.. The injectors were still the stock injectors, so might as well while I'm there.. Started reading about the secondary throttle system... Hmmm good time as any.... Well I guess I have to reprogram to delete the secondaries, OK new chip with all the goodies.. Stainless bolts would look good on the new Powder Coat... Thanks go to Lgaff and Jerry's Gaskets for their Great service and assistance. Then Work got in the way, (I work away from home for about a month at a time) So what started as a $3.00 repair in June, cost a bit more than expected and took a bit longer to accomplish. But hearing it fire up tonite was worth it.. |
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Do let us know how your thoughts on how it responds with the secondary delete "option". (Assuming the snow isn't hip deep to a tall giraffe!) P. |
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Back in, after a visit [buddy] in the hospital. The doc's can't communicate to the patient the difference between a viral and a bacterial infection. Or, "You have him on broad spectrum anti-biotics? Or narrow spectrum anti-biotic? Have you ID'ed the bacterial strain yet? " :rolleyes:
So finish with di-electric grease in the connector gaskets; sink the INJ-connector clips onto the connector https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a...0/IMG_5910.JPG Oiled Q-tip in the rail ports, then check for Q-tip 'fuzz' https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMG_5914.JPG Drop of oil on the O's - watch cap action draw it inside the ring ;) https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/IMG_5917.JPG Rock the rail, make sure the O's' sockets are aligned, and drive. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0...0/IMG_5923.JPG And they snapped home ... |
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Rock the rails again for seating (they snapped down nice, but one O could have been binding); little grease on the threads, under the cap, rail hold-down bolts
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...0/IMG_5929.JPG Torque 'em down https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4...0/IMG_5933.JPG Snap on the INJ connectors, the vacuum connector down in the 'hole', and stand back and assess... ( and one day before pulling the trigger, I might actually get those CC hose clamps on ) https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...0/HPIM7381.JPG |
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D side IH set
Wipe down head and IH mating surfaces, set the gasket, then the IH. Match up the CC vent hose https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/IMG_5936.JPG One bolt dry, Phillips to align other end, raise and check https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...0/HPIM7384.JPG All the while, I'm KNOWIN' I forgot something [s] ... primary O's d SIDE for one... and then a punch list Found the grease tube cap after :30 search - started to sweat, thinking I did a BF, and let it bail under the starter; P SIDE INJ CLIPS!!! ; primary O's on the D side; forgot to put them in first :o , and the 2 connectors - forward end D side IH. WHAT ARE THEY??? CTS ONE??? Grease and sink the bolts https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...0/IMG_5943.JPG spark plug loom retainer https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...0/IMG_5947.JPG |
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INJ ret clips snapped into the G-spot x 8 ;)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P.../IMG_5957c.JPG Di-electric grease in the 2 IH D side forward connectors https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3.../IMG_5963c.JPG Set the primary O's with a drop of Trans-X in the groove https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i.../IMG_5971c.JPG torque down the IH https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMG_5976.JPG |
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Polyglass / Gloss Red mix on the TB; 1st coat cured.
recipe for oil base can = 2 part polyglass resin HALF STRENGTH MEK HARDENER ... 5 drops MEK (as opposed to 10) per ounce polyglass resin ; you can go 4 drops, but cure time seems exponential as you reduce MEK 2 parts paint thinner 5 parts paint The thinner mix allows laying flat; no brush strokes or sags. Half strength hardener allows longer working time, AND harder finish (increased cure time however) You HAVE to use a quality paintbru$h from arts & crafts store. Cheapies lose bristles... and you absolutely HAVE to allow TOTAL cure before second coat - second coat too early will prevent 1st coat cure vapors from escaping, and will cause bubbling / poor bond. Some say this is what happens in Detroit with peeled paint... https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...0/HPIM7389.JPG |
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Shrade great job.....I'm near Charlotte Nc and planning on pulling the plenum on my car to fix a vacuum, oil, and antifreeze leak! Care to join:-D
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Great job....and nice, clear, detailed large photos :thumbsup:
I am referencing several posts in -Solutions- if for no other reason (but there are many reasons)...the clarity of the photos. Will be interesting how the paint scheme looks once put back together :handshak: |
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Jerry got those gaskets here pronto - thanks to him for that! And to Bill [geezer] (Owner's Manual), Steve [WeGone] (Z parts schematic CD), and ? [BearlyFlying] (TB shaft butterfly screws), and THAT list goes on..............
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So let's try again; the RIGHT way. Pull the D side rail; oil the rail crossover D side inlet / outlet https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C.../IMG_5985c.JPG fit (I don't know how far I thought I was gonna' go, with that screw in place - where's Houdini when ya' need him? ) AND KEEP YER GRUBBY FINGERS OFF OF THE CLEAN RAIL / INJ PORTS! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X.../IMG_5988c.JPG drive https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X.../IMG_5998c.JPG clip https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k.../IMG_6009c.JPG |
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tighten clip
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H.../IMG_6013c.JPG grease on rail holddown bolts https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K.../IMG_6017c.JPG Will the same type connector in here, fit inside the CC vent crossover tube, if I cut the tube where I put the clamp? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I.../HPIM7394c.JPG |
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I don't think so as the CC tube is larger in inside diameter I think. Jerry's has a new CC pipe however its a bit pricey. I was thinking that maybe you could wiggle a slightly smaller PVC pipe or something similar through the hose up to the defect and then clamp it. Maybe not but I tend to analyze why parts like that fail since there isn't a lot of pressure etc on them. Got to be oil and heat breakdown or friction on a adjacent part. High temp RTV might work too if allowed to setup properly.
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TPS connector harness; does it go between 1' and 2' injectors #1? Or in front of #1 primary?
:confused: I cannot find a snappic just yet here...... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q.../HPIM7399c.JPG |
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My TPS connector harness goes in front of first injector over the top of the PCV connector (and charcoal connector on 90') to Plenum.
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Like Dyno says in front of first injector. Pic #4 page 1 and pic #11 especially. Looks like it was under the plenum vac tubes. Check those vacuum hoses to see if they are soft.
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ed.: Cliff; Franke, you posted while I was looking at posted snappics, and Photo-Chopping BELOW... thanks.........................
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Anyway, I found a snappic showing TPS harness in front of #1 1' INJ. And I have a few vac tube routing / location errors here (at least) :o https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...0/HPIM7400.JPG And THIS is NOT how to put together your Z. Some others of ya' there must be ROFL'ing... https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F.../HPIM7398c.JPG If this mill doesn't detonate when I pull the trigger, I'll be surprised... http://www.mphpa.org/classic/COLLECT...P-JPAP-034.jpg |
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OK - I got the 'tie' part, but which one in the Red circle over / under???
http://www.zr1.net/forum/attachment....1&d=1381717981 http://www.zr1.net/forum/attachment....1&d=1381719014 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/HPIM7401.JPG |
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Someone has rerouted that line (lined one in pic) as it is supposed to be in front of the Pwr strg pump on the top of the clamp. Look at clamp and you will see nothing on top curved part. It follows the other vac line that goes to the front of the pump. Is that coolant pipe gasket on backwards? :)
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Yes someone rerouted that line before you got it. Mine does go in front of the PS pump on the top of the clamp with the larger one on the bottom of the clamp. I suspect that at some point that hose was a source of a vac leak so the cut/splice easiest route method was embraced. While it will work ok it isn't factory correct and there in is the reason for the zip tie. No codes and I don't believe the hesitation source.
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Schrade, What no spring ring clamps? :) Look at page 1 #4 which shows the coolant hoses before removal. Maybe that will help ya as I see some markings on the hoses. Also, with the ignition off both of the fuel pumps are routed to the test connector through the fuel pump relays.
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I had P side 'marked', but the Trans-X swelled out the scratched-in mark. Stuff is amazing. Those spring clamps leave a stinger in yer paw when they unload from pliers OuCH! And no way to rock the crossover and seat the hoses with OEM clamps on... FP test tomorrow. Have to pull the sec pump fuse I suppose. And still need to do resistance check for the SP wires. That's where this part all started. No clue what spec resistance is on SP wires... THEN... pull plugs. Put the Shop-Vac on 3 and try to pull the moth, if still in there. And I'm thinking rotate the crank 90', and pull 4, then 90' more, 3, 90' more 6, etc, to pull any jam that drained into each hole. AND, if I can figure out which hole is on the squeeze for each 90' pull, get a static squeeze check at the same time... Time to start really thinkin' here... but I got dual exhaust if my CPU overheats from thinkin' too hard http://www.h2g2.com/h2g2/skins/Alaba...es/f_steam.gif |
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Fuel pump test...
Pulling FP #2 fuse will isolate for pump #1 pressure... BUT, can I pull FP fuse #1, plug in FP #2 fuse, and isolate pump 2 pressure??? |
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