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Billy Mild 08-31-2015 09:12 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
You could do grandsport calipers which are supposedly stronger.

I thought maybe the C5 Z06 brake kits will fit under stock wheels as well.

-=Jeff=- 08-31-2015 09:16 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
I think you need a spacer for the C5s.. unless you have the A molds.

XfireZ51 08-31-2015 09:25 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny5 (Post 231523)
I want to keep my stock sawblades. What kind of caliper upgrades are there available? did the later 93-95 have bogger calipers? or could you guys recommend some brands/models? i do not want to change rims but on my next brake job i would like bigger calipers along witjh my pads. I like my sawblades too much to get larger wheels. In my opinion its the flagship rim of C4 and i love em.

Don't think the saw blades give you any option. 5 spokes allow for C5 brakes.

WVZR-1 08-31-2015 09:53 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny5 (Post 231523)
I want to keep my stock sawblades. What kind of caliper upgrades are there available? did the later 93-95 have bogger calipers? or could you guys recommend some brands/models? i do not want to change rims but on my next brake job i would like bigger calipers along witjh my pads. I like my sawblades too much to get larger wheels. In my opinion its the flagship rim of C4 and i love em.

I doubt there's any reason to do any "upgrade" (your choice of word) for your car if you've got good hydraulics, good rotors and quality pads. Those with what they determine are "upgrades" are likely 90%+ of the time being done for the "bling". They can claim anything that they might like to but very few actually use the brakes. Those that do have a product that's proven it's worth and are serious "upgrades".

I doubt that with the use of the majority of the eBay adapter bracket packages that some buy there's any substantial benefit to what they've accomplished.

The C4 Grand Sport caliper is determined to be stouter in some critical areas from a design aspect but is it required for the majority of the users? Likely not.

If your car is a '91 I believe the "upgrade" to the '92+ pedal ratio could be considered a true "upgrade". If your car is a '92 then you've got the ratio and I believe I'd just relax, buy a pad that's meant for 95% of your driving. If you actually have a need for a performance pad/rotor combination, buy and install when the need arises. Simple as that, different pads/rotors for use on track days or whatever. The "bias spring" is generally accepted as being a desired modification so maybe that deserves some consideration.

Those with A-molds can buy the "bling" spend all they want to do the "show me".

Those that use the brakes have product that performs and there's no "bling" involved.

RussMcB 08-31-2015 11:20 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
I'm a relatively new ZR-1 owner, and recently noticed that the pads only contact the outermost few inches of the rotor. Like, the pads aren't the same width as the rotor face area. Is that normal?

My '91 has new rotors and stock calipers (as far as I know). I looked at the new rotors recently and saw that much of the rotor face nearest the center isn't scuffed, isn't used.

Seemed odd, and made me wonder if I had mismatched parts. I can't think of a reason GM wouldn't use the entire rotor surface. Maybe they were worried about caliper flex?

Dynomite 08-31-2015 11:30 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
ZR-1 (90' and 91') Wilwood Rotors and C4 to C5-Z06 Conversion

ZR-1 (90' and 91') Wilwood Rotors and C4 to C5-Z06 Front Brake Conversion with A-Molds

Specific Brake Parts by Wilwood

The KEY Element is the offset of the Rotor to match the offset of the Caliper Bracket.
This Wilwood Rotor with Z06 Caliper Modification described herein is IDENTICAL on BOTH the 90' ZR-1 and 91' ZR-1.

BLING is Good.....so is LESS BRAKE FADE :D

Also the Bearing Hub does not see near as much heat on a high speed stop when compared to STOCK Single Piece Rotors.

Johnny5 08-31-2015 11:48 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mild (Post 231528)
You could do grandsport calipers which are supposedly stronger.

I thought maybe the C5 Z06 brake kits will fit under stock wheels as well.

The fronts are 17 inch wheels in c5 Z06 but rears are 18s i believe my brother said. But rears are smaller so they might fit

RussMcB 08-31-2015 11:49 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
Johnny5 restarted this thread this week and he wants to use his sawblades. So, I don't think he can use these options below, right?

I'm in the same situation. My track tires are mounted on sawblades (but I might change that).
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynomite (Post 231536)
ZR-1 (90' and 91') Wilwood Rotors and C4 to C5-Z06 Conversion

ZR-1 (90' and 91') Wilwood Rotors and C4 to C5-Z06 Front Brake Conversion with A-Molds

Specific Brake Parts by Wilwood

The KEY Element is the offset of the Rotor to match the offset of the Caliper Bracket.
This Wilwood Rotor with Z06 Caliper Modification described herein is IDENTICAL on BOTH the 90' ZR-1 and 91' ZR-1.

BLING is Good.....so is LESS BRAKE FADE :D

Also the Bearing Hub does not see near as much heat on a high speed stop when compared to STOCK Single Piece Rotors.


XfireZ51 08-31-2015 11:55 AM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny5 (Post 231537)
The fronts are 17 inch wheels in c5 Z06 but rears are 18s i believe my brother said. But rears are smaller so they might fit

The C5Z rear brakes have an drum type E Brake. Won't work on the latter C4 like the ZR-1, without some type of adapter, which uses the rear caliper as the EBrake. As WV stated, not much advantage really.

Dynomite 08-31-2015 12:49 PM

Re: Brake Recommendations Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RussMcB (Post 231538)
Johnny5 restarted this thread this week and he wants to use his sawblades. So, I don't think he can use these options below, right?

I'm in the same situation. My track tires are mounted on sawblades (but I might change that).

Item #14 of ZR-1 (90' and 91') Wilwood Rotors and C4 to C5-Z06 Conversion addresses that specifically :cheers:


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