ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

ZR-1 Net Registry Forums (http://zr1.net/forum/index.php)
-   C4 ZR-1 General Postings (http://zr1.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14)
-   -   Corvette Museum (http://zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22268)

Racinfan83 03-03-2014 10:51 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Man - how anybody can watch these webcam deals is beyond me. Horrible. I get a frame about every 5 seconds. And I have like 20meg cable internet. Think I will have to wait for the DVD of all the rescues to come out...

We Gone 03-03-2014 11:04 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Must be a lot of people logged in today was much better feed over the weekend.

Schrade 03-03-2014 11:15 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by We Gone (Post 197154)
Must be a lot of people logged in today was much better feed over the weekend.

Yup - insufficient bandwidth, I do believe...

Schrade 03-03-2014 11:36 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Beautiful...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6...March32014.jpg

scottfab 03-03-2014 11:40 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
lift sequence below. The recovery has begun.
http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?alb...pictureid=2465
http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?alb...pictureid=2466
http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?alb...pictureid=2467
http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?alb...pictureid=2468

Schrade 03-03-2014 11:51 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Yep - 1 down [UP]; 7 to go...


Schrade 03-03-2014 11:55 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
I'm surprised that they drove it off.

I'm goin' out on a limb here... I don't think any others are gonna' get out on their own power...

Schrade 03-03-2014 12:14 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Racinfan83 (Post 197153)
Man - how anybody can watch these webcam deals is beyond me. Horrible. I get a frame about every 5 seconds. And I have like 20meg cable internet. Think I will have to wait for the DVD of all the rescues to come out...

If you're in a Linux / Unix environment, open up a command line interface, and execute <ping corvettemuseum.org>

Ping response facilitates smoother dataflow, regardless of bandwidth. Think of it as oil reducing friction in a mechanical system. Or in an 'organic' system, think of Mel Tillis...

Windows ping command limits to 4 ping requests. In 'nix's, ping is interminable.

(benefits of Linux are interminable as well - free, more secure, faster, etc., ad infinitum ;) you should see a virus trying to attack a Linux machine - funny as hell)

scottfab 03-03-2014 01:13 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 197168)
If you're in a Linux / Unix environment, open up a command line interface, and execute <ping corvettemuseum.org>

Ping response facilitates smoother dataflow, regardless of bandwidth. Think of it as oil reducing friction in a mechanical system. Or in an 'organic' system, think of Mel Tillis...

Windows ping command limits to 4 ping requests. In 'nix's, ping is interminable.

(benefits of Linux are interminable as well - free, more secure, faster, etc., ad infinitum ;) you should see a virus trying to attack a Linux machine - funny as hell)

There should be no need for multiple "ping"s. A few pings is all that is needed to be registered in the "arp" cache in each server/router along the path. Once in the arp cashe(table) it does indeed "lubricate" the flow in that the DNS lookup for the target no longer needs to be looked up. A better way is a trace route (tracert) command since on most servers the info is kept longer (timeout for data).
There are various incantations of this but the simplest is:
tracert corvettemuseum.org
Then sit back and watch the path your network request takes through all them there pieces of hardware.

Another little secret is to do multiple browser requests for the address. That is if you notice a delay in getting to you target address simply resubmit the address OR "refresh" the page request. It's like punching a hole through a clogged sewer line with a snake :blahblah:
Doesn't mater what browser, what OS, what hardware or what day of the week it is. This works.

Racinfan83 03-03-2014 03:25 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 197168)
If you're in a Linux / Unix environment, open up a command line interface, and execute <ping corvettemuseum.org>

Ping response facilitates smoother dataflow, regardless of bandwidth. Think of it as oil reducing friction in a mechanical system. Or in an 'organic' system, think of Mel Tillis...

Windows ping command limits to 4 ping requests. In 'nix's, ping is interminable.

(benefits of Linux are interminable as well - free, more secure, faster, etc., ad infinitum ;) you should see a virus trying to attack a Linux machine - funny as hell)

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottfab (Post 197175)
There should be no need for multiple "ping"s. A few pings is all that is needed to be registered in the "arp" cache in each server/router along the path. Once in the arp cashe(table) it does indeed "lubricate" the flow in that the DNS lookup for the target no longer needs to be looked up. A better way is a trace route (tracert) command since on most servers the info is kept longer (timeout for data).
There are various incantations of this but the simplest is:
tracert corvettemuseum.org
Then sit back and watch the path your network request takes through all them there pieces of hardware.

Another little secret is to do multiple browser requests for the address. That is if you notice a delay in getting to you target address simply resubmit the address OR "refresh" the page request. It's like punching a hole through a clogged sewer line with a snake :blahblah:
Doesn't mater what browser, what OS, what hardware or what day of the week it is. This works.

Ok guys I'm gonna really sound like a dumb:censored: here - but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about :confused:
No idea what Linux or Unix is. I run Vista on a 5 yr old HP laptop. What is a "command line interface"? Or a "tracert"? Now the "multiple browser request" deal I can figure that out. Just keep hittin "refresh" on the webcam page correct?:confused:

Schrade 03-03-2014 03:27 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scottfab (Post 197175)
There should be no need for multiple "ping"s. A few pings is all that is needed to be registered in the "arp" cache in each server/router along the path. Once in the arp cashe(table) it does indeed "lubricate" the flow in that the DNS lookup for the target no longer needs to be looked up. A better way is a trace route (tracert) command since on most servers the info is kept longer (timeout for data).
There are various incantations of this but the simplest is:
tracert corvettemuseum.org
Then sit back and watch the path your network request takes through all them there pieces of hardware.

Another little secret is to do multiple browser requests for the address. That is if you notice a delay in getting to you target address simply resubmit the address OR "refresh" the page request. It's like punching a hole through a clogged sewer line with a snake :blahblah:
Doesn't mater what browser, what OS, what hardware or what day of the week it is. This works.

You're a little over my head there Scott...

But it seems that once you HAVE the datapath to corvettemuseum.org domain established in ONE browser page, do you HAVE TO establish it again, with more browser pages to the site? Won't that 'clog' your OWN hardware - again, IF you already have the datapath established???

And even if you do NOT, isn't the syn-ack the first order?


Anyway, they did WELL dropping the '93 rubber down. Well done guys! http://www.zr1.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.zr1.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.zr1.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

Wonder why they didn't drop it on to a dolly?

Anyone know where they drove the Z to? None of the other cams showed a truck outside the museum, and none showed the Z outside... Is it inside the museum elsewhere???


Quote:

Originally Posted by Racinfan83 (Post 197183)
Ok guys I'm gonna really sound like a dumb here - but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
No idea what Linux or Unix is. I run Vista on a 5 yr old HP laptop. What is a "command line interface"? Or a "tracert"? Now the "multiple browser request" deal I can figure that out. Just keep hittin "refresh" on the webcam page correct?

ed.:
I'm not sure if Scott was agreeing with me there racinfan, but either way, to get a command line in Windows, click Start, then 'Run, and in the dialogue box, type cmd.exe. That give a Command Line Interface. Type ping corvettemuseum.exe. Your computer will send a rudimentary signal to corvettemuseum.org. Kind of like saying 'Hello'? Are you there? "Keep Talking To Me here".

Linux is a free operating system. Better than Windows is EVERY WAY. You can try it without changing your own PC. Download it [Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Long Term Support) ], burn a CD, and re-boot up from CD.

Racinfan83 03-03-2014 03:33 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Well Miss Ruby don't look so good....

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../RubyVette.jpg

Schrade 03-03-2014 03:42 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Racinfan83 (Post 197185)
Well Miss Ruby don't look so good....

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../RubyVette.jpg

Are you at the museum racinfan? Anyone else on the boards there?

scottfab 03-03-2014 05:36 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 197186)
Are you at the museum racinfan? Anyone else on the boards there?

I think this is from Webcam Skydome 2

Here is a video of one of the recoveries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SYXGtbAe4w

And since there seems to be a path resolution issue to the Webcam Skydome camera, here is a direct link for tomorrow
if the same should happen:
http://ncm-skydome.click2stream.com/

Fully Vetted 03-03-2014 05:38 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
I can't get a feed from that link anymore.

Fully Vetted 03-03-2014 05:40 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Maybe they will crank up production of some windshields for us. They will need some if they're going to restore them back to original.

scottfab 03-03-2014 06:16 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted (Post 197195)
I can't get a feed from that link anymore.

You can use this direct link:
http://ncm-skydome.click2stream.com/
and also
http://ncm-skydome2.click2stream.com/

These links should be good tomorrow IF the path from the NCM webpage fails again.

Racinfan83 03-03-2014 07:27 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 197186)
Are you at the museum racinfan? Anyone else on the boards there?

No I got this pic from the NCM Facebook site.

I will try that command line thing. Thanks for explaining!

USAFPILOT 03-03-2014 07:36 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
ruby red LT1 is jacked up

Blue Flame Restorations 03-03-2014 07:44 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
40th is mostly cosmetic. Body panel replacement on a C4 is nothing compared to most other generations of the marque.

ZZZZZR1 03-03-2014 07:51 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Flame Restorations (Post 197207)
40th is mostly cosmetic. Body panel replacement on a C4 is nothing compared to most other generations of the marque.

Believe it or not...

The Ruby is WORSE than it looks according to first hand accounts.

:cry:

David

efnfast 03-03-2014 07:53 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Yeah, and it was on top.

Schrade 03-03-2014 08:36 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted (Post 197196)
Maybe they will crank up production of some windshields for us. They will need some if they're going to restore them back to original.

All camstreams went down late PM; I called about 4:15 local - she said IT guys were working on it.

I was getting 'Forbidden Access' (Apache servers); thought they had begun paid access perhaps.

racinfan - are you 'Erics'? Which cam got the snappic that you posted there?

USAZR1 03-03-2014 08:52 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZZZZR1 (Post 197208)
Believe it or not...

The Ruby is WORSE than it looks according to first hand accounts.

:cry:

David

:cry::cry::cry:

Racinfan83 03-04-2014 06:51 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 197216)
All camstreams went down late PM; I called about 4:15 local - she said IT guys were working on it.

I was getting 'Forbidden Access' (Apache servers); thought they had begun paid access perhaps.

racinfan - are you 'Erics'? Which cam got the snappic that you posted there?

Yep - I am "Eric". I don't know which cam - I would assume one of the NCM staffers took the pics. They put up the one I posted and two more on the NCM Facebook page - I saved that one to my computer so I could upload it to Photobucket and post it on here....

If you are on Facebook - the NCM page and also Mid America Motorworks page have been posting quite a bit of stuff about it..

Paul Workman 03-04-2014 09:15 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
A comment by a local TV news dude in Chicago on Monday remarked that Mustang owners were laughing about the NCM sinkhole and Corvette enthusiasts.[-X

Well.... Just wait till THEIR museum has a sinkhole open up under it!! Oh, wait. They don't have a museum?? Harumph...

taximan 03-04-2014 12:11 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
I am not sure who made the decision to start up that ZR1 right after it came out of the hole. But it looks like it may have cost them an engine. They fired it up, drove away and left about 8 quarts of oil on the ground.

Why would you start up a car that had that kind of damage without checking it out on a lift first ???

Z51JEFF 03-04-2014 12:23 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taximan (Post 197264)
I am not sure who made the decision to start up that ZR1 right after it came out of the hole. But it looks like it may have cost them an engine. They fired it up, drove away and left about 8 quarts of oil on the ground.

Why would you start up a car that had that kind of damage without checking it out on a lift first ???

I would venture to say once the oil pressure dropped too much the motor would die,safety precaution built into the ECM.I for one was glad to hear that car start.Kind of like telling the sinkhole,kiss my @$$!;)

RHanselman 03-04-2014 12:32 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrade (Post 197216)
All camstreams went down late PM; I called about 4:15 local - she said IT guys were working on it.

I was getting 'Forbidden Access' (Apache servers); thought they had begun paid access perhaps.

racinfan - are you 'Erics'? Which cam got the snappic that you posted there?

Just wondering...

Are you a corvette museum stalker? [-X :mrgreen: (Attempt at humor… for those of you trying to find if I broke any rules…)

Cheers,

Hog 03-05-2014 08:44 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z51JEFF (Post 197265)
I would venture to say once the oil pressure dropped too much the motor would die,safety precaution built into the ECM.I for one was glad to hear that car start.Kind of like telling the sinkhole,kiss my @$$!;)

Huge advertisement having it pulled from underground and then started up and drive away. It was a GM owned car, I wouldnt be surprised if the order to start and drive away came from GM itself.

Its only an LS9 anyways. Cookie cutter engine. GM has a few thousand laying around.

If any fuel injected car starts, that means it has oil pressure. Its a safety feature for a potential crash site. No oil pressure kicks out the fuel pumps, if it didnt an over turned or wrecked car's fuel pump would empty its fuel tank onto the ground. No oil pressure, no fuel pressure, less fire risk to 1st aiders, not to save the engine itself.

Jim Nolan 03-05-2014 09:19 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Workman (Post 197244)
A comment by a local TV news dude in Chicago on Monday remarked that Mustang owners were laughing about the NCM sinkhole and Corvette enthusiasts.[-X

Well.... Just wait till THEIR museum has a sinkhole open up under it!! Oh, wait. They don't have a museum?? Harumph...

There are mustang museums all over the country they are called junkyards.

XfireZ51 03-05-2014 09:34 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog (Post 197316)
Huge advertisement having it pulled from underground and then started up and drive away. It was a GM owned car, I wouldnt be surprised if the order to start and drive away came from GM itself.

Its only an LS9 anyways. Cookie cutter engine. GM has a few thousand laying around.

If any fuel injected car starts, that means it has oil pressure. Its a safety feature for a potential crash site. No oil pressure kicks out the fuel pumps, if it didnt an over turned or wrecked car's fuel pump would empty its fuel tank onto the ground. No oil pressure, no fuel pressure, less fire risk to 1st aiders, not to save the engine itself.

Hog,

I think you are correct. Something tells me that scene will find its way into a commercial. Takes a licking and comes up ticking.
My 84 had an oil pressure switch by distributor that completed circuit for fuel pump. Wow! That's 30 years ago. :eek:

Hog 03-05-2014 11:41 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 197325)
Hog,

I think you are correct. Something tells me that scene will find its way into a commercial. Takes a licking and comes up ticking.
My 84 had an oil pressure switch by distributor that completed circuit for fuel pump. Wow! That's 30 years ago. :eek:

Wow, 30 years ago, it doesnt seem that long ago.

My fleet of 1997-98 Vortec 350 L31 trucks are some of the last distributer equipped vehicles, 2002-2003 vans were the last. These L31 engines use teh same high voltage coils that the LT1/LT4;'s use, and they eat distributer caps/rotors. I change them every year and actually notice seat of the pants power improvements. Such a high voltage cannabalizes the contact points. Its one of the reasons that GM went with CNP in 1997 in the LS1. The 1st BBC to go CNP was the 1998 L21 which is pretty much a Vortec 454 but with CNP(Coil Near Plugs) and ETC(electronic Throttle control) then for MY2000 the L18 8.1 496 GEN 7 BBC came about.

IIRC there is an oil pressure/fuel pump switch on the drivers side of the
block on the 1996-1999 GMT 400(88-98) GM trucks.

Schrade 03-05-2014 11:57 AM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RHanselman (Post 197268)
Just wondering...

Are you a corvette museum stalker? [-X :mrgreen: (Attempt at humor… for those of you trying to find if I broke any rules…)

Cheers,

That's 'MR. NCM Stalker SIR', to you.

Now, where's that 'TRole' Call / Ignore List Button here.............

Cheers TO 'ya! ;)

XfireZ51 03-05-2014 12:11 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Hog,

I used MSD components. Had a MSD 6A along w MSD HEI coil w Accel module.
Had good success w that. Drilled holes in cap to relieve ionization.

Hog 03-05-2014 12:46 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Anyone have a live feed for the camera that actually shows the mancage at work? I am only able to get the other camera that shows the red pillar that blocks the actual view of the work.

thanks

Hog 03-05-2014 12:56 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog (Post 197333)
Anyone have a live feed for the camera that actually shows the mancage at work? I am only able to get the other camera that shows the red pillar that blocks the actual view of the work.

thanks

This is the only 1 that works for me.

RyanChappel 03-05-2014 02:01 PM

40th Anniversary car at NCM..
 
There is a photo on the Buyavette (Atlanta) website of the 40th after it was pulled out of the sinkhole...every body panel is trashed, windshield and windshield frame is destroyed...full of dirt and gravel...what a shame..

Racinfan83 03-05-2014 02:15 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Well they just pulled the millionth Vette out. Said they had the opportunity so they went ahead and got it. Only one pic on the page you really can't tell what shape its in...

grahambehan 03-05-2014 02:21 PM

Re: Corvette Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Racinfan83 (Post 197340)
Well they just pulled the millionth Vette out. Said they had the opportunity so they went ahead and got it. Only one pic on the page you really can't tell what shape its in...

That's cool one of the few LT1 cars that means something to me, I was at the plant as that car rolled off the line:cheers:

Graham.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:02 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ZR-1 Net Registry 2025