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LGAFF 03-21-2012 05:48 PM

FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Was not aware that the FX-3 system had six shock valve settings per switch setting....if you were in the performance mode the shocks stiffen more as you go faster.....below 25, 25, 50, 75, 100, and 125...

GOLDCYLON 03-21-2012 07:20 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
I didnt know until I read the small drivers book as a part of the MY90-91 pizza box. It speaks to this along with a graph ratio. Neat huh?

USAFPILOT 03-21-2012 09:18 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
I thought the first two settings were really only used in touring...and that the switch settings basically decrease the speeds at which they begin to firm up. Which is why if you are at highway speed and flip the switch around nothing should change at certain speeds, because you are full hard by then. I don't think you need to be at 125mph to be at the hardest setting.

RHanselman 03-22-2012 07:07 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Where is the best place to get them rebuilt these days? I need a set done...

GOLDCYLON 03-22-2012 07:10 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RHanselman (Post 136348)
Where is the best place to get them rebuilt these days? I need a set done...


Bilstein still does em. Keep in mind Ron thats all they do... they do not clean them up repaint them or put new stickers on they simply rebuild the internals.

Moonlk 03-22-2012 07:33 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Does anyone know what they charge for rebuilding?

GOLDCYLON 03-22-2012 08:29 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonlk (Post 136354)
Does anyone know what they charge for rebuilding?


Depends on the valving. They offer standard and morroca valving for the Autocross types.

mike100 03-22-2012 08:33 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
$100 ea doesn't matter if it is stock or custom valved.

I had mine done something like 20-30% more rebound and 10% more compression. They may have just tested one out on the shock dyno to get close to the appx valving desired, but i have a feeling they have done enough of them to know how to set them up just by giving them the firmness increase desired.

If i had to do it again, I would have put a little more rebound and compression valving in the fronts, but not the rears.

PhillipsLT5 03-22-2012 08:50 PM

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They will rebuild for free with proof of purchase

tomtom72 03-23-2012 06:01 AM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipsLT5 (Post 136372)
They will rebuild for free with proof of purchase

Phil, you mean to the original owner of the car, right? Or if you buy their FX3 shocks new? TIA

On the FX3 the early cars it does say it the the ZR-1 owner's manual about the 6 selections within each of the three switch positions. Remember the system changes two more times on it's way to becoming the "active handling" system that debuted in the C5. I think the 93 & up cars have an updated version and the 96 cars have a system without the driver controlled FX3 selector switch. I think that is the time line anyway!:o

:cheers:
Tom

mike100 03-23-2012 10:37 AM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomtom72 (Post 136410)
Phil, you mean to the original owner of the car, right? Or if you buy their FX3 shocks new? TIA
...
:cheers:
Tom

I think they consider GM the orig purchaser.

If you were to buy new 4 shocks at $200ea, then there is a warranty. Could you imagine if people found out there was a way to get free rebuilds...GM probably bought 200k-300K of these shocks over several years that the option was available- bad business case for sure.

GOLDCYLON 03-23-2012 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mike100 (Post 136422)
I think they consider GM the orig purchaser.

If you were to buy new 4 shocks at $200ea, then there is a warranty.

Correct

GOLDCYLON 03-23-2012 10:40 AM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike100 (Post 136369)
$100 ea doesn't matter if it is stock or custom valved.

I had mine done something like 20-30% more rebound and 10% more compression. They may have just tested one out on the shock dyno to get close to the appx valving desired, but i have a feeling they have done enough of them to know how to set them up just by giving them the firmness increase desired.

If i had to do it again, I would have put a little more rebound and compression valving in the fronts, but not the rears.

Hmm used to be more for the morocca valving good info

PhillipsLT5 03-23-2012 10:56 AM

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She will ask for proof of purchase
Lisa Ciacci
Warranty/Job Order Clerk
Research & Development
ThyssenKrupp Bilstein of America
14102 Stowe Drive
Poway, CA 92064
Phone: +1 858 386-5951
Fax: +1 858 386-5945
E-Mail: Lisa.Ciacci@thyssenkrupp.com
Website:
www.bilsteinUS.com

GOLDCYLON 03-23-2012 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipsLT5 (Post 136429)
She will ask for proof of purchase
Lisa Ciacci
Warranty/Job Order Clerk
Research & Development
ThyssenKrupp Bilstein of America
14102 Stowe Drive
Poway, CA 92064
Phone: +1 858 386-5951
Fax: +1 858 386-5945
E-Mail: Lisa.Ciacci@thyssenkrupp.com
Website:
www.bilsteinUS.com


:thumbsup: So is it correct to assume your leaky shock has been repaired Phil ? Geat info for the club

Daniel_Mc 03-23-2012 11:59 AM

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I had Rippie send off the FX3's on the 89 when the coilovers went on the car. It was 80 per shock plus shipping. If you can still find the FX3 computer this is a good mod as well if you track the car at all. A friend had a 90 track car with this done and it was a noticeable difference in how the shocks reacted. I wanted to do the same with the 89 however I was never able to locate a computer...

Daniel

RHanselman 03-23-2012 12:59 PM

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You can get 4 new FX-3's from DRM for $450... I thought rebuilds would be a better value...

http://dougrippie.com/?p=911

PhillipsLT5 03-23-2012 03:30 PM

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I wiped my rear shock down to see how fast the leak comes back
I have not sent in my shock yet but Lisa has made the offer to repair it for free, I have a parts lady reciept
She will replace it for free but none to replace it with now
I have another correct rear shock, I wanted to put on car during repair, but the gear is the wrong gear on top, hence, I have not mounted it and sent in leaky one for repair, Those DRM prices seem very cheap, maybe old, or just wanting to clear out C4 stuff

lbszr 03-23-2012 05:44 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_Mc (Post 136435)
I had Rippie send off the FX3's on the 89 when the coilovers went on the car. It was 80 per shock plus shipping. If you can still find the FX3 computer this is a good mod as well if you track the car at all. A friend had a 90 track car with this done and it was a noticeable difference in how the shocks reacted. I wanted to do the same with the 89 however I was never able to locate a computer...

Daniel

Just got one with a roadrace chip from Lingenfelter, they have a couple other chip options. but haven't installed it yet. I don't know if the 89 would be the same controller.

mike100 03-23-2012 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipsLT5 (Post 136454)
... Those DRM prices seem very cheap, maybe old, or just wanting to clear out C4 stuff

That's what I think it is. I bought the rear trailing arm relocating brackets from them on sale recently as well.

tomtom72 03-24-2012 07:01 AM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RHanselman (Post 136443)
You can get 4 new FX-3's from DRM for $450... I thought rebuilds would be a better value...

http://dougrippie.com/?p=911

Holy smokes! That's a little over 1/2 of what I paid for a new set four years ago!

Thanks Mike and Phil for the info. I have to go dig up my receipt for my shocks and drop an e-mail to Ms. Ciacci.

Thanks guys!:thumbsup:

:cheers:
Tom

dorri732 03-24-2012 06:47 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomtom72 (Post 136502)
Holy smokes! That's a little over 1/2 of what I paid for a new set four years ago!

Thanks Mike and Phil for the info. I have to go dig up my receipt for my shocks and drop an e-mail to Ms. Ciacci.

Thanks guys!:thumbsup:

:cheers:
Tom

That's $350 for standard shocks and +$450 for FX3 upgrade for a total of $800 to purchase the FX3 shocks. Not that fantastic of a deal.

tomtom72 03-26-2012 08:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dorri732 (Post 136556)
That's $350 for standard shocks and +$450 for FX3 upgrade for a total of $800 to purchase the FX3 shocks. Not that fantastic of a deal.

:o thanks. Now I don't feel like I paid the corvette tax and a ZR-1 tax!

:cheers:
Tom

Moonlk 03-26-2012 09:21 AM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
I got a price from my local part supplier last week of $375 per shock. That $450 was looking pretty good but maybe not anymore. Might look into rebuilding as next winters project.

PhillipsLT5 03-26-2012 06:46 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Should be about 200 per shock
try e shocks

jimmy b. 03-26-2012 09:16 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Just got a rear pr from e shocks and shipping was free, very good service!

And I found them here on our forum thanks guys, not ready to install yet but
when I do I'll have a few questions...jimmy

Moonlk 03-27-2012 12:15 AM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
I will have to see what they will charge for shipping to Canada. The free shipping is US only.

RHanselman 03-27-2012 09:07 PM

Re: FX-3 ....something I did not know
 
Bilstein left a message on my phone today. $100 ea to rebuild plus any parts beyond the standard seals and oil. Shipping is on me...

Cheers,
RH


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