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Just heard on sirius radio a sink hole opened up inside the museum under the dome

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Yes, confirmed that 8 cars were swallowed up. OMG... What a loss that could be, depending on which ones...

DAYAM!

http://www.wbko.com/home/headlines/B...per-1&at_pos=0

What effect will this have on the Gathering (I can't help but wonder)?

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Hard to believe something like that could happen. We had dinner in there last year!

This is going to be expensive to fix, perhaps we should start a collection?

Dave

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Blue flame restorations a can restore those cars no matter what. I think the most key car lost was the 1 millionth Vette, and possibly the ZR1 spyder.

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this it what i found....



BOWLING GREEN, Ky. -- Eight Corvettes at the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green are gone after a sinkhole opened under the Skydome portion of the facility Wednesday morning.
According to a news release, the museum's security company alerted officials around 5:44 a.m. Wednesday when movement in the Skydome set off motion detectors.
Museum officials said when the arrived at the building they discovered the sinkhole and the Bowling Green Fire Department secured the area.
The release stated the following cars were affected:

• 1993 ZR-1 Spyder on loan from General Motors
• 2009 ZR1 “Blue Devil” on loan from General Motors

The other six vehicles were owned by the National Corvette Museum including:

• 1962 Black Corvette
• 1984 PPG Pace Car
• 1992 White 1 Millionth Corvette
• 1993 Ruby Red 40th Anniversary Corvette
• 2001 Mallett Hammer Z06 Corvette
• 2009 White 1.5 Millionth Corvette

Stuctural engineers are being called in to survey the damage.
The museum is open to the public, but officials said the Skydome is closed to everyone, including employees, until it is deemed structurally sound.

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They better think about removing Zora and Elfie to safer ground.....

The article states that the NCM will be open today. I would think that from a liability standpoint, they would not want their employees at risk.

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The board is meeting tonight to discuss BG 2014 and we will add
the NCM's tragedy to the top of the agenda

The club should consider giving what we can, this is a huge
catastrophe and this is the time to help

Thoughts?

:proud:

David

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Perhaps a donation from the Registry as a whole combined with donations by individuals ? The BG disaster relief fund? Count me in.

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Good thing the museum was closed or it could have been much worse, I wonder how long it had been sinking? I'm sure they have insurance to help with the cost.

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I left Adam a voicemail telling him I was willing to buy the spider sight unseen.

On a serious note. I am glad to hear that no one was hurt.

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Holy crap. Just saw this. Do they do any "fracking" in KY?

http://www.whas11.com/news/8-cars-sw...245183751.html

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Looking at the pics I sure don't see any rebar or wire in the floor? Also looks thin I would think the floor would have been 8-10" thick or more under the spire.

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More cars to restore!!

Seriously though, this is just awful.....

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Where did you get pictures?

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Robert, while in FL last month, I was offered the crushed 89 LT5 narrow bodied car. GM built experimental.

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Pictures:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...09671370_n.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--...59295865_n.jpg

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That floor does look thin. And yeah, where is the rebar?

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I see rebar but not a lot.

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What Causes Sink Holes to Form

Typical Concrete Driveways are 3-1/2 inch with wire mesh just because 2x4 forms are used....but most go for 4 inch and I go for 5 inch thick concrete. If heavy truck traffic or tractors..then even thicker.

Looks like concrete layed on plastic with no wire mesh and maybe some conduits under the concrete for electrical or something. And....some other access corridors under the concrete. Definitely would not expect heavy traffic on this floor and the tile would cover ALL pending cracks from concrete shrinkage with the plastic keeping moisture from reaching the tile above.

What a disaster :mad: and could have happened outside as well as under some nice corvettes. But maybe some of those conduits you see are water lines that begin leaking over a long period of time. Which would be the reason why the sink hole happened where it did. A reason I do not like water lines under concrete...always go around any concrete flooring with water lines if possible for the simple reason it is easy to find and repair water leaks.

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That ZR1 need any parts?

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http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k7...l_Mc/LastZ.png

The area under the car is not supported so it is only being held by a thin layer of cement. You can see rebar but very little (or what looks like rebar).

EDIT: I hate seeing this... Our GS sat where the 40th was for 3 years. Glad she is home now!

-Daniel

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Oh,the pain.[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...psfc40f000.jpg[/IMG]

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FOX News just reported that the NCM is now CLOSED.

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Just read on the web that the museum has been planning a survivor display for 2015 or 2016 season. Guess they won't have to go far for some really cool specimens! Truly is a sad day for the Corvette community.

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I believe the spyder in the pit is the black car pictured here:
http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Inform...8/Default.aspx
http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Portal...6/103_0385.JPG

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My question is how in the world do they plan to (A) extract the cars that did not fall into the pit, and (B) extract the cars that DID fall in the pit. With regard to the currently safe cars, I would imagine it must be pretty frightening to think about driving them on such unstable ground. And on the cars that have fallen, the obvious answer is a crane, but from how far away? Certainly, the entire structure has to be considered compromised now, right? Say they fill the hole and put a new floor in.... would you loan YOUR car for display?

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Yep, same car.

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This is the ASC car I believe,Im going to go cry a little bit now.Honestly I wouldnt feel as bad if it were a BigBlock Midyear instead of this car.Hope it can be saved.How are they going to move the last 95 that looks like there is nothing under it.:cry:

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I would volunteer to help push the others out

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You think they would close the museum ? Go to the NCM site and click on the webcams.
I'd GTFO of there asap.

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Some of the cars swallowed: :(

1 millionth car (on right)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H...o/DSC_0130.JPG

ZR-1 Spyder:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...o/DSC_0080.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r...o/DSC_0082.JPG

1.5 millionth:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...o/DSC_0060.JPG

I know I have more pics at home

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Seems that someone ought to consider getting some ground studies done with ground penetrating radar to see where there maybe more potential sink holes.
Don't even know if that would help since the nature of a sink hole is not usually soil missing from directly under the sight as it is a pocket of missing soil/rock many many feet down.

I know I've walked through that area many times. Strange to see the hole there now and sad to see the vetts at the bottom of it.
No doubt this will make the evening news.

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What I find that is very interesting first there looks like there were corridors under the floor now were those corridors created by water? Second it is amazing that the NCM starting displacing earth for the race track about 2 years ago is this part of the problem? I would like to know what the altitude of the NCM Museum is compared to the race track.

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That 53 is the one I restored and was displayed for a year. Glad it wasn't there!

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The Falconer was sitting behind the last ZR-1 two weeks ago.

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Such a sad day.....

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should all be rebuildable.

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Yes it is.....mourning from North Carolina!

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Hope NCM insurance was paid up and covers all this damage.:cry:

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We hope! But who knows how far in there they are, how much dirt and concrete is on top of em, and how much damage they will do trying to get em out? Gonna be a long process since they will have to determine what caused it, and if there is danger of further sinking...