Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk
 

Alright,

So some of you know I acquired a 1992 with a small burn,...

Here's to the rebuild:cheers:

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Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk
 

So the story on this car is that it has been around the site before. It had 3 owners, sat for 5 years with an older gentlemen, was driven up to November 2015, it was a Texas car. 60K on the odometer.

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Burn seems to have started in the transmission area JUST LIKE this one>

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12444

(Hmmm,..a 92' burn problem??)

damage is almost identical to the damage in thread above, with only difference being LESS damage to the wiring bundle and the engine rear.

Plan?

1.Gloss up the black exterior
2. Change Black to RED interior(Blk interior is in great condition aside from one of the door panels,seats are awesome, with tiny blemishes)
3. Pulling the engine and doing a soft rebuild(UDATED!...368-415 build)
4. Powdercoat of top end with blade silver.
5. secondaries DELETE!!
6. wire bundle may need to be replaced(UPDATED!..minor 8 wire transplant)
7. Transmission will have a short shifter installed
8. Exhaust is completely stock...hmmmm
9. memcal burn with mods in mind.
10. Dyno run


ALL subject to change....

Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk
 

Sounds like another cool project. I have to stop by to check it out.

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Great website and wishing you much luck with the new venture. Going to be a fun summer in Wazoo land!

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Black with red guts will be awesome!!!

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Wow! I missed it at first. Cool website with cool cars! - First one is mine!
One correction - it's a 378 with 3.75" stroke.

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Updated, sorry Yun!;)

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What color red?

Correct year Flame Red? or 93 Torch Red?

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Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk
 

great question,...I have flame red carpet, but the dark red might be awesome!!!.

:mrgreen:

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One more correction - it's a 94.

Truth in advertising!

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fixed...:p

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OK...so the burn wasn't sooo small....:censored:

entire area you see is brittle to paper-strong...

I am going to SMC the entire side and sand/paint to perfection...OR cut the whole thing and replace it with a donor piece,

melted **** everywhere, water in the floorboards, ect. standard F%ked up car..

I am dyna-matting the whole interior(Like the white car)

This car WILL dominate!!!...just going to take a few months..and about 200 hrs of work..

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NOT all bad,...the passenger side is good:
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OH YEAH,....found a crack on the cam cover,HIDDEN by RTV....NICE!!!!
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Flame red is the darker of the 2.. in my picture I have one flame red panel, laying across the torch red panels

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Update!

After moving the Z06 and the white car to the new shop, I have room to get the 92' on the lift.

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Heres the future shop space of Evolution Motorsport Engineering!(half of it anyway-5000 Sq Ft)
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First got the tranny out in a few hours,
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The speedo-gear was melted and leaking..this MAY have led to the burn, due to the destruction(most of it anyway) was right next to and above.

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After the tranny, came the engine removal...so far a decent amount of fiberglass damage, burned wires, a **** ton of halon fire retardant and a cracked cam cover. NOT TOO BAD :dancing

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Going to pull the cam covers, and press on with a "soft rebuild for now,..and also today/tomorrow I will cut out the bad fiberglass and prepare to repair the tunnel, I will then dyna-mat the interior and rubberize/road proof-FIRE proof the underside.

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Lookin good :cheers: My guess is the cam cover can be repaired?

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yeah, I just have to get it off!....gonna have to drill out 5 cam cover bolts just to start!..:mad::censored:

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Wow that looks like a heck of a project! Cleaning all that mess alone is gonna take some hours. Is the trans good still or did the fire kill it? And I would think that cam cover could be TIG welded, and since you were going to refinish anyway it should look like it never even happened..

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So......I am not sure what to make of the cam cover.....:confused:

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What do you do when you dont have cam end rubbers??.....Make your own out of aluminum!!!

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Engine is coming along:

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Soooo... I dont think the secondaries were used for a while:...Those are mountains of carbon in the heads......

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Now starting to look and plan the fiberglass repair....

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****Also....the Broken cam cover was NOT the original....the PO installed the cam cover and along with the crack/hack job on the cam cover, the rear-outboard cam journal was galled and damaged from the pressure applied from using the WRONG cam cover.!

Due to this I will NOT be using these heads on this engine during the big-cube "Dragon Heart" build

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Update: Once I got the engine out, I was faced with the standard "frosting" of oil and grime. Note: seems like the oil was from the corner of the passenger cam cover that the PO had mistakenly got electric tape in between the cover and the head...


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All of the gaskets were OE, and after a "BIT" of cleaning...

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OH Yeah,....I was asked why it wouldnt start........

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...After MORE cleaning...

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After a bit...(ok alot of thought...I have decided with the much needed help of Phil and Pete to build the 92' into the big cube engine. We will be using the 4" components from phil and after a bit of discussion we will either build the 368 or a bigger displacement.

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Sooo... In place of the big cube engine for now(depending on crank time on anything bigger than a 368) after we finish the interior and wiring, I will go ahead and drop in the Chrome 91' engine I built in 14':

*Ported plenum and IH's
*plenum coolant mod
*52K on the block/internals

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BTW:...Our plan is further than Evolution Motorsports,..SO with that in mind I will be using the cars that we bring back from the dead and racing them under the moniker "Revenant Racing".

When it comes to the rebuild of these cars I will be posting under the website


www.revenantracing.com :icon_thum

Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk
 

Just a quick update!

Was pretty bad...

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Now not so bad

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Cut out the rough fiberglass, will have pics when fixed

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Repair harness to be soldered in, NO other damaged wires,..there is a total of 8 wires that burned, although I didnt need to replace the DIC harness, I didn't want to split the bonded wires (better plugs too!).

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I have removed the rods', pistons and liners to begin the bigger cube build! (special thanks to Phil for the MUCH appreciated parts!!)

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after the harness is fixed and back in place, will install the new hood seal and cable..:cheers:

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Looking Good

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big job but will be worth it for sure. this is heavy duty work and only for guys who know or guys who are brave. Love the pics and the quality of work. Good Luck.

ed ramos #3028

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Very much appreciated, thank you:cheers:

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And, Dempsey is both!

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So!...its starting to come together:

before:

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AFTER!!

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Almost ready for the heart{Chrome} to go in till the big cube is done...

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getting the plastic removed:

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Done so far?

pull and replace engine
repair fire damage
replace hood seal and sealant
replace hood cable and ops check
check and replace and bad wiring(soldered in NEW harness's)
...thats off the top of my head......a **** ton more I cant remember


Next up?...

Chrome Engine install
clean and prep tranny
sand and paint interior repair area
install rubber sealant, dynamat and heat shield padding
remove dash pad
replace window seal
install red carpet
Polish and detail exterior(full Two stage plan)

Later?...
install tranny with short shifter
service and ops check car and electrical system
pull brakes and replace with 04 Z06 calipers and new rotors

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Quick update!

Inside of the drivers side after sanding and rubberizing.

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*Rubberizing and Dyna-Mat tomorrow

Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk
 

you need a B&B to go with that car!

just happen to have one. maybe we can do some horse tradin'

glad to see you bring another one back from the brink

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Whattya lookin for?????I don't have just 1 horse though....their all tied together...:-D

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Great job, I'ts going to look like new!

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Real nice job Demp's :handshak:

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Finished up the Rubber and Dyna-matting!..

So for the interior and underside, after the repair to the fiberglass, we:

*sanded and rubberized the underside and Dyna-matted floor joint.
*Removed the compromised joint glue, and re-glued with a black silicone bonding agent(that goop on the right floorboard is OEM...not me)
*Topside was sanded, rubberized the entire floorboard and trans tunnel
*Re-sealed the manual boot ring with the black silicone
*Dyna-matted the floor boards
*Installed a new center console frame


Next up is pulling the dash and installing the Chrome engine.


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Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk (Updated investigation)
 

SO after much interest, The cause of the fire seem to be the VSS, which ether shorted and caught fire or leaked and caught fire. (The 92' that had the same issue had the same type of VSS and was burned in the Exact same area), then once it caught fire it melted/burned the rubber boot around the lower shifter causing the fiberglass damage, as well as traveled up the harness to burn the fwd areas just under the front of the tunnel, until the fire was put out with must have been the entire amount of halon powder allowed in texas:mad:.

SOO..I realize it may be a very small portion of vehicles to have this issue ,..however to alleviate any issue that may arise,

To those who still have stock manifolds,..I would recommend:

*Checking the wires(VSS,Reverse lockout ect) to make sure they are not fraying, touching the exhaust,melted ect.
*Put a simple fire barrier in the trans tunnel(dyna-mat, fyre barrier ect)

Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk (Updated investigation)
 

Actually, if I remember correctly, Evan had said the original owner of the '92 you are referring to that I worked on, put the fire out with one of those giant big gulp type sodas that he happened to have on him. Lol! :-D

Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk (Updated investigation)
 

Unfortunately, in MY case the whole fire extinguisher was used..:cry:

Re: Rehab of the 1992 Blk on Blk -The beating heart is in!!!!
 

Well,,, I didnt go out for Valentines day....Sooo...I needed make this car my B!tch!!!

Sooooo,..

I said F$@ck it!! and took a shot at installing this engine by myself...

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As you can see, its like shoeing a 10" foot into a 8" shoe...without cutting your 3" toenails.:jawdrop:


Its ONLY LOOKED WORSE as I leaned forward in my task........

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Just have to get it...over....the...hump..!

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Then...after "rotate"...this way and "rotate"...that way...crank up..crank down....and BAM!....were doing "GOOD"......or....maybe..I'm in a situation I CANT get out of...:eek::pray

Well....Cant turn back NOW!.:-(

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OMG....This Sh!t just might happen!.. let me get a "selfie" (LOL)

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VICTORY!!!!

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Epilogue:

I honestly REALLY didn't think I could get the engine in the car with what seemed like 3 foot long manifolds on, let alone without damaging SOMETHING in the process....

The only provisions I made was disconnecting the hood to get another 2" of space, then covering everything with towels and cardboard.

One of most difficult things was to get the motor mounts lined up with the frame mounts...Especially with the stock manifolds!AFTER an hour of "motivating" the engine....(THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR)

..other than a mark on the AC canister.....success...

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When I put the LT5 back in the '90 Z I used to own, I tried it with the injector housings on, but it wouldn't clear the crossbar in the front. I didn't have the exhaust manifolds on either. I had to not only remove the IH's, but also the wiper motor from the firewall to get the necessary clearance.

That was with the harmonic balancer on too. If that was off, would have more clearance, but putting the HB on with the engine installed looks like a giant pain in the a$$.


EDIT: I see you got it in, wow, I'm surprised. I wonder why I had so much trouble with mine?

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Finesse my man,...finesse....:-D

I actually had to work it inch by inch and remove the driver side IH(to not damage the wiper-motor plastic...although the stock manifolds with their GIGANTIC CC's were touching EVERYTHING!

I think if I had another pair of hands, it may have been a bit quicker.;)