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Check out this DRM 600: PRice is not bad. Sorry for the long link could not get it to shorten.

This is a 26K package:

I looked up stats:
DRM 600 Corvette Engine Years C.I.D. Horsepower Torque 1/4-mile sec./mph) 0-60mph Top Speed
DRM 600 Engine LT5 93-95 ZR-1 402 550-600 500+ 11.25/127 3.9 sec. 200mph TPC-001

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...e=&cardist=603

LGAFF
92 ZR1
3234

Looks like it also has a set of hi-dollar Dymag wheels. Yessir, that's a good deal. Very low miles, about 25 cents on the buck for the mods and low price for the base car, not to mention a late model, 405/4 bolt engine.

Everything Ron said and...

1 of 11 Black Rose made in '94.

Rare car.

Whattya bet he's ordering a new ZR/1 ?

T

Still looks purple to me.

A C6Z06 contender for half the price. And it looks better.

I sent the guy 2 e-mails over a week ago, no response :confused:

Go figure...

Hans

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Originally Posted by A26B

Yep, Gen 2 Dymags. Nice car. Close to a 30,000 engine package from DRM. Good way for somebody to step into a 402 cube car.

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Originally Posted by phrogs

Still looks purple to me.

Me too, but if I had the money it would look purple in my driveway!!!!;)

Whoa...check out the plenum!:icon_scra
http://images.autotrader.com/images/..._A.316x421.jpg

hour glass shaped=Black Widow?

only 550 hp....... must be stock cams?

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Originally Posted by Polo-1

only 550 hp....... must be stock cams?

I believe DRM regrinds the stock intake cams. The HP rating may be without headers. The DRM website quotes the HP ratings 550-600.

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Originally Posted by LGAFF

hour glass shaped=Black Widow?

Here's a link to the Black Widow info although it's a little outdated vs what he's done recently... http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...lackwidow.html

Here's picture of my "almost Black Widow" that JVD refers to in his Black Widow story
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...PORTRAIT-4.jpg

... and here's some more Black Widow folklore...this from a recent post by Jim VanDorn to the ZR-1 net:
"So it goes....Well uh, once upon a time we were all doing up a thread on our cars and a couple of guys said theirs was for sale. When asked about the cars they posted a "For Sale" type ad so some of the rest of us joined in. Seeing as how my car was a somewhat frequent of the local tracks I came up with an ad something like this:
For Sale: 1991 Corvette with GM performance package. Wrinkle black painted engine (easier to keep clean), roll bar and 5 point safety harnesses (safety reasons only), very large brakes. This vehicle has low miles, in fact, it is adult driven mostly for short trips on the Weeknd, usually only a 1/4 mile or so at a time....
And thus the Weekndr was born to the net.
As for the uniqueness, #1119 is the last of the Black Widow engine packages (#8) which were a special GM blessed package where the engines were removed, sent back to MeCruiser where they were fully ported and custom timed from knowledge gained from Tommy Morrison's racing ventures with the ZR-1. The packages developed approx 475 hp. When the news came that the ZR-1 program was coming to a halt, GM directed MerCruiser to end the engine enhancement option. Mine was on the bench when the program was scrubbed and was hastily put back together to get it out of the door. Later, after GM calmed down, MerCruiser guys asked for the engine back so they could spend some more
time on it and make sure it was all it could be. During that time, they had
made several improvements to the porting package so #8 got a bit more than the other 7.
I named the packages "Black Widow" after seeing their red letters on the
black painted engines. Reminded me of the black widow spider. It stuck and when Tony Young was writing his book "Heart of the Beast" he included the Black Widow engines in it.
Of the eight cars, several have been destroyed but the others remain with
new owners. I believe I'm the only original Black Widow owner left. The
eight Black Widows are often referred to as the rarest of all the ZR-1s.
The Weekndr has been more fully documented than any other ZR-1. It has
appeared in numerous articles including Corvette Fever (several covers
also), Heart of the Beast (led the parade through the MerCruiser facility),
and in the 1994 Motor Trend article it appeared in, it was described as the
following:
"This Corvette is the over all fastest Corvette we've ever tested and in
fact, it is the third fastest vehicle in Motor Trend history."
This took into effect all of their tests which included standing 1/4 mile,
slalom, lateral skid pan, braking, and top speed. All test cars were also
asked to pass a California emissions test.
The Weekndr is currently here in Bowling Green where it has starred in
various event and group functions. It has also been rumored to have been
seen at nearby Beech Bend Racway...on the weeknds only of course...:-))
HOT OFF THE PRESS: Rumor has it the Weekndr may be up for sale in the very near future in order to make room for yet another project....
jvd & the Beagle"
picture of Black Widow # 8 LT5...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/IMG_5908.jpg

550 isn't bad at all for an "old school" 402

the porting and cam tech has come a long way since then.

price out building that level of power, even now, and the car looks to be a pretty schweet deal.

also keep in mind that LPE did some of the engine builds for DRM, they didn't talk about it much, but Rippie "outsourced" some of the work from what I have heard. anyone know for sure??

either way, buying is cheaper than building, and no waiting!!

So, 550hp or 460 rwhp is good for a 402. That pretty soft. Mark H has a 385 with stock cams that puts out more. 368ci with stage1 cams is 550+.

Not saying this or any "old school" is junk, it's just very mild. Or did not get cammed or headers? Maybe it still is blowing through stock manifolds for smog check? I dont know..

Still is a nice car for money, dont care for purple.
I thought Black Rose would have been more red:icon_scra

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Originally Posted by rkreigh

also keep in mind that LPE did some of the engine builds for DRM, they didn't talk about it much, but Rippie "outsourced" some of the work from what I have heard. anyone know for sure??

Only thing I know is some porting work was outsourced. As far as I know Doug is the only guy there working on LT5's.

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Originally Posted by Polo-1

Still is a nice car for money, dont care for purple.
I thought Black Rose would have been more red:icon_scra

It's a color change car... it's almost black in certain light, but brightens up in sun.

http://www.pnwzr1.net/PeteC/IMG_0386.jpg

http://www.pnwzr1.net/PeteC/IMG_0393.jpg

http://www.pnwzr1.net/PeteC/IMG_0401.jpg

I know mine was a DRM 415, the car was not taken to DRM to my knowledge but intake sent to them. The intake was Extrude honed, and if you have seen my prior post, openings at the plenum to IH were in the 34mm range with ample room for addition porting, not sure if this was the same as it is a 94. Also as just noted the 63mm TB was not port matched as the plenum was 60mm.

Might find the extra HP if a full port was completed.

LGAFF
92 ZR1
#234

I dont mean to disagree but i had a 92 lt1 that was black rose car . they have a tendency to look different in different light . like in the last pic the hood is up . and look at the inside of the door jambs . has anyone asked if its a repaint .? hate to see anyone convicted if its not true .jmho

Car has a deposit on it. Waiting on final funds.

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

Car has a deposit on it. Waiting on final funds.

how long before YOUR final funds arrive Jeff?

not his money:bootyshak

Kevin, did you? Wish I hadn't just bought a house. My wife was ready to kill me when I asked about this car.

I tried, someone beat me to it.
Linda said "it must be Ted who bought it". I told her no, it's not a 95 car.:D

Linda said to say Hi to Karoline

That is a heck of a nice car !

Ok, no more yanking us around...Who bought it......

Hans...

Demps...

Jeffvette.....

or was it Col. Mustard with the candlestick.

Somebody come clean!

LGAFF
92 ZR1
#234

I emailed Sunday night.
mailed back on Monday, Sold.

Damm 2nd lost 402 car............:sleepy1: you lose

Anybody know who the lucky buyer was?

Hello I brought the car. The car is GREAT I talked to Doug Rippie about the car and he said it was one of the best cars he did He said he drove the car up 196mph with more to go. I have the all the paper work and magazine article with the car and the receipts for the work 39000 with coil overs. I had the car 2 days and have 2 people wanting to buy the car. The orginal owner passed away and the family kept for 2 years before finnally decided to sell it.

Congratulations, you've got yourself one great Corvette
Welcome to the brotherhood

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Originally Posted by 69bb

I was told it had a little problem from a critter eating some wires?

It must be fixed now, right.
Do you want to sell it to me:D
Congrads. Post some pictures of it
:cheers:

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Originally Posted by 69bb

Congrats, looks like you got a great deal:cheers:

Congrats on your purchase. I talked to Bowen Marshall shortly after you. Looks like I missed it by a few hours...

Enjoy it. Appears to be a heck of a ride.

Wow.........

You got an incredible deal on that one! The year / paint color is worth the money alone, PLUS the DRM package....

Incredible! Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers: