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mavhou 10-24-2005 01:03 PM

secondary port throttle solenoid
 
Hi,
I have a 1990 and am having the typical vacuum problems after a backfire. I have traced the leak to the secondary port throttle actuator solenoid. Thanks to all of your posts, I was able to get info on it as the local chevy dealers are zr1 idiots. Anyway, I just picked up the new part (1997222) and it had a vacuum port on the back side which my old one does not. Is this a revision with the later models? Do I simply plug it or should i T it into the vacuum system. If I Tee it in, should it be before the solenoid or past? Thanks for all the help. This is a great source of info and you guys do a great job.

mavhou

tomtom72 10-25-2005 08:47 AM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
Hi mavhou, The solenoid that you bought has a shiny metal vacuum port on one end and the black plastic ports, for the vacuum hose assembly, on the other end??

The vacuum hose assembly has the squarish, notched connector made from hard looking rubber or plastic? That connector goes to the black plastic vacuum ports on the rear of the solenoid and the metal port is for the air filter which points toward the front of the motor. Is that what you are talking about??

I'll go look at my old stuff but it sounds like you got the solenoid that used the round barrel-like foam air filter vs. the solenoid that used the flat, squarish foam air filter. Either way the vacuum hose connector goes on one end and the filter goes on the metal port. Let me know what's up as I still have my old stuff & I can go eye it & maybe I can help you out. :thumbsup:

Tom

mavhou 10-25-2005 02:13 PM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
Thanks for responding. Everything you asked in your post is correct. So now I have to find a filter. Any ideas? Can one be made easily enough. It took the chevy dealer a week to get the solenoid. :) Thanks again,


chris
mavhou@yahoo.com

tomtom72 10-26-2005 07:30 AM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
Hi Chris, Good I'm glad we are on the same page! I took one of those Foam wax applicators that came with one of the prods I use for detailing and cut it up to make a cylinder about 1 1/2" in dia by about 2" thick. I tested various foams I had laying around by sucking thru them to find a low resistance one. It turned out to be something I got from Autopia, a generic foam applicator. Then I found a short lenght of vacuum hose to fit the metal port on the solenoid. I didn't know exactly what the OEM filter looks like so I winged it. I made the hose long enough to have a gentle bend, no kinks, over the top of the solenoid back towards the rear of the motor, just past the vac. tank so it was laying on top of the "official vacuum hose assembly".

Next I made a hole in my "filter", not all the way thru but about 1/2 way and used some rtv permatex blue to "glue" the hose into the hole I had made. Just put the rtv on the sides of the hose & let it set up & it worked as far as holding and it allowed air thru the hose! I stuck it on the solenoid & I know it's a bit rediculous looking but I think it works because my secondaries work! :mrgreen:

:cheers:
Tom

mavhou 10-26-2005 03:58 PM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
thanks for helping out. I think I'll rig up something myself, also; your formula sounds good. I think I'll give it a try with a similar setup. At least the vacuum leak is fixed and I can be back on the road soon.:cool:

Thanks again,

chris

tomtom72 10-26-2005 04:14 PM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
:thumbsup: Chris! Good luck with the fix. I know my "filter" is not elegant but I think it works. :eusa_shhh

:cheers:
Tom

Patton 10-26-2005 05:33 PM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
Tom, thats badass, I like your ingenuity! :thumbsup:

tomtom72 10-26-2005 06:20 PM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patton
Tom, thats badass, I like your ingenuity! :thumbsup:

:handshak: Thanks Patton! Ya gotta adapt & overcome if you own an antique!

:cheers:
Tom

Patton 10-26-2005 07:24 PM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
In 2020 ZR-1s will be held together with epoxy and duct tape and use burgerking straws and chewing gum for vacuum lines ala Mad Max.

tomtom72 10-26-2005 07:32 PM

Re: secondary port throttle solenoid
 
Naw, by that time GM will have let go of the rights to parts and someone else will be trying to double tax ZR-1 owners!

That's why we have to be creative...but no foreign objects or "bubba engineering" ... well at least not too much "bubba engineering"!

:o
bubba


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