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jcampbell1993 05-19-2013 06:37 AM

90 ZR1 #102
 
My friend just puchased #102 and the window sticker states that the car was delivered to CPC Group Engineering Center 30003 Van Dyke RM. A106 Warren MI 48090. Does anyone have any information on this delivery location?

JThomas 05-19-2013 08:08 AM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
That would be the address for the GM Tech Center in Warren, Michigan. What color combination is the car, it could have a unique history.

I have a '95 ZR-1 that was delivered to the Proving Grounds in Mesa, Arizona. I'm still trying to learn what it may have been involved in, but sometimes that's the fun of owning these cars.

1989ZR1#74 05-19-2013 10:04 AM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcampbell1993 (Post 173156)
My friend just puchased #102 and the window sticker states that the car was delivered to CPC Group Engineering Center 30003 Van Dyke RM. A106 Warren MI 48090. Does anyone have any information on this delivery location?

JC, Could be a lot of reasons. Could have been a PEP car. (company car assigned to a employee) or a service center car etc. There are two boxes on the build sheet that shed some light. The delivery dealer and the order dealer. Who ordered it? next step would be to order a vehicle invoice from:

http://www.gmmediaarchive.com/

That will show some additional information. Scan all the docs and repost this in the Prototype section of the forum. We history geeks love figuring out theses issues.

Joe same goes for your 1995. These two where part of development history of the Z at some level. Move the question to the Proto section.

Eric

jcampbell1993 05-19-2013 02:00 PM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Thank you guys for responding to the question I posted this morning. My friend emailed me more information this afternoon on the car.

Window Sticker Information:

Box #110 (Shipped to) c-p-c hdqtrs c/o qual-effic I, 13 mile & mound Warren MI.

Box #113 (dealer) 502

Box #117 (dealer) 47

It looks like the cpc group ordered it. The car is dark red metallic with saddle interior. The car has around 94K on the odometer at present time and has had 4 previous owners.

I will see if he can scan all the information he has on the car and I will re-post on the prototype section. Thank you guys again for your responses.

JThomas 05-19-2013 10:03 PM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1989ZR1#74 (Post 173177)
JC, Could be a lot of reasons. Could have been a PEP car. (company car assigned to a employee) or a service center car etc. There are two boxes on the build sheet that shed some light. The delivery dealer and the order dealer. Who ordered it? next step would be to order a vehicle invoice from:

http://www.gmmediaarchive.com/

That will show some additional information. Scan all the docs and repost this in the Prototype section of the forum. We history geeks love figuring out theses issues.

Joe same goes for your 1995. These two where part of development history of the Z at some level. Move the question to the Proto section.

Eric

Eric:

Thanks for that information! I have spoken to Ingles, Minneker and Heinricy about my car, because they are all here in Michigan, but I will try this and see if I can find out anythig additional.

Thanks

Vetman 05-19-2013 11:51 PM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Interesting, my car window sticker shows shipped to the chev. Central office in warren Michigan, but sold new in manhattan beach, California. Members have told me my car was probably a pep car (Product evaluation program). I do have the presentation box but the build sheet is missing so I can't look at the boxes, however, I will try to get the one off the tank if it is still there and check boxes 110, 113, 117. I have all the new car sales stuff confirming new car purchase at champion Chevrolet in manhattan beach. Yet delivery to the tech center in warren Michigan. My z is a 1990 # 2441

Blue Flame Restorations 05-20-2013 12:43 AM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vetman (Post 173260)
Interesting, my car window sticker shows shipped to the chev. Central office in warren Michigan, but sold new in manhattan beach, California. Members have told me my car was probably a pep car (Product evaluation program). I do have the presentation box but the build sheet is missing so I can't look at the boxes, however, I will try to get the one off the tank if it is still there and check boxes 110, 113, 117. I have all the new car sales stuff confirming new car purchase at champion Chevrolet in manhattan beach. Yet delivery to the tech center in warren Michigan. My z is a 1990 # 2441


You can also order your Build Sheet through the National Corvette Museum.

WVZR-1 05-20-2013 05:09 AM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1989ZR1#74 (Post 173177)
JC, Could be a lot of reasons. Could have been a PEP car. (company car assigned to a employee) or a service center car etc. There are two boxes on the build sheet that shed some light. The delivery dealer and the order dealer. Who ordered it? next step would be to order a vehicle invoice from:

http://www.gmmediaarchive.com/

That will show some additional information. Scan all the docs and repost this in the Prototype section of the forum. We history geeks love figuring out theses issues.

Joe same goes for your 1995. These two where part of development history of the Z at some level. Move the question to the Proto section.

Eric

I don't understand why it would be suggested that inquiries into a "production" car be directed towards the "PROTOTYPES" - "limited to pre-production ZR-1's"? I can't see where there would any significant advantage for the "owners" or "interested person" inquiring to gather any information that the "general membership" couldn't likely maybe contribute towards.

Are you professing - "all knowing"? c'mon !

LGAFF 05-20-2013 07:46 AM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JThomas (Post 173163)
That would be the address for the GM Tech Center in Warren, Michigan. What color combination is the car, it could have a unique history.

I have a '95 ZR-1 that was delivered to the Proving Grounds in Mesa, Arizona. I'm still trying to learn what it may have been involved in, but sometimes that's the fun of owning these cars.

The guy no one mentions often is Scott Leon, my understanding, and people can correct me if I am wrong, he oversaw alot of the ZR-1 testing in mesa. Scott also apparently played a role in many of the one off Z builds; including snakeskinner, etc

1989ZR1#74 05-20-2013 04:54 PM

Re: 90 ZR1 #102
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 173266)
I don't understand why it would be suggested that inquiries into a "production" car be directed towards the "PROTOTYPES" - "limited to pre-production ZR-1's"? I can't see where there would any significant advantage for the "owners" or "interested person" inquiring to gather any information that the "general membership" couldn't likely maybe contribute towards.

Are you professing - "all knowing"? c'mon !

The normal board has more posts and they roll off faster.

Forgive me but there are many "all knowing" types that have many years of experience pouring over everything from pep cars, pilots, prototypes, program cars etc that frequent the proto board. I also forgot that we ban general members from clicking on the proto board. Perhaps the new board can fix that pffft.

Maybe you can answer the question. You obviously know so much due to your insisting on involving yourself.


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