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Old 01-23-2008   #10
Paul Workman
 
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Default Re: Balking issue: More info...

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Originally Posted by ITLGO2
Paul,
although I'm no mechanic, which many here will
freely agree and comment upon. I do retain a bit of knowledge
of things that have happened to me before. albeit, not all.
with that pretense in mind, My car, 1990, #0074 had some similiar
problems as you have described, Upon acceleration, it would sometimes,
fall flat on her face, fart, then, pick right back up, It didn't matter whether hot or cold. and she did it when she wanted.
a few months of this, and, upon arriving in Bowling Green for the gathering a few years ago, I was explaining my problems, to anyone that would listen, standing around my open clam shell. Gordon Killibrew and a host of others, were looking and talking about stuff.
Gordon told me he thought it was the map sensor hose, collapsing upon
acceleration, He said, if the hose was soft, and pliable, that would be one of my problems, he was right, and the next morning, at the Museum,
I went to his tent, and he cut me a piece of new hose, showed How to replace it. He also said he the air cleaner needed to be replaced.
I had dyno'd the car the day before, and after the new map hose and
the air cleaner, it dyno'd and extra 22 hp. Holy mother of pearl, i was suprised, and delighted, and the hesitation was history.
Of course you probably already know, but the map sensor hose, is located right in the back in the middle of your plenum, there is an aluminum bracket, that you take off to get to it. Here's hoping it is something as simple as that.
Hmmm.... I didn't consider the MAP hose being "soft"; loose fitting, yes, but not collapsing. But, then the air pressure in the plenum increases (becomes less negative) at WOT, so if the MAP hose is collapsing to external pressure, it would have to be doing it at idle when plenum pressure is at it's lowest (I would think?). Assuming that to be the case (collapsed at idle or low speed), a collapsed hose might well impede pressure changes to the MAP resulting in grievous signal error to the PCM, I would guess.

Easy enough and cheap enough to replace it, so I'll put it on the list when I pull the plenum.

Thx for that!

P.
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