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Old 01-17-2014   #1
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Default Window closes outside weather strip

For some reason, the end of the weather strip above the door curves down a bit so that, when the window is all the way up and I close the driver's side door, the window is outside the weather strip leaving a gap on the right side that causes wind noise. Here's a picture...




I can get around it by lowering the window slightly (a few mm) before I get out of the car, but it's annoying and I always forget. When I drive the car, I have to then remember to have the window all the way up or I get wind noise from the top of the window since it's not snug against the weather strip. Is there any easy way to fix this or will I need to replace the weather strip?
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Old 01-17-2014   #2
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For some reason, the end of the weather strip above the door curves down a bit so that, when the window is all the way up and I close the driver's side door, the window is outside the weather strip leaving a gap on the right side that causes wind noise. Here's a picture...




I can get around it by lowering the window slightly (a few mm) before I get out of the car, but it's annoying and I always forget. When I drive the car, I have to then remember to have the window all the way up or I get wind noise from the top of the window since it's not snug against the weather strip. Is there any easy way to fix this or will I need to replace the weather strip?

The short answer is you will prob need to replace the strip. However I would give this a shot first. Tape it up into position for a few weeks to see if will train itself back into the original shape
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Old 01-17-2014   #3
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That weather-strip appears to have come loose from the retainer that's attached to the top.

Taping this up or any other attempt to a fix on the car can only make it worse, remove the top and you can likely secure it into the retainer again - "likely"!

If this is a recent development I'd think you can recover without a purchase of a part, which would be the preferred. If it's been that way for quite some time it's less likely.

I thought I could point you towards a good install for the weather-strip but I can't seem to locate the one that I intentioned.
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Default Re: Window closes outside weather strip

These are Targa sides. They are retained with 3M Adhesive... Only. There are no retainers like the Door weatherstip has or the A-Pillar has Etc.

Tape it up for a week in the CA Sun and see if it retrains itself back into the OEM indended postion. The cost is nothing to try except time.

I think however, it may be time for new side targa seals. GC
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Old 01-17-2014   #5
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Default Re: Window closes outside weather strip

Does the window seal against the top of rear pillar seal as it goes up with out the top on? How does it fit at the front pillar seal? If there is a gap at the top, the window may need to be adjusted. Tilted in at the top.
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These are Targa sides. They are retained with 3M Adhesive... Only. There are no retainers like the Door weatherstip has or the A-Pillar has Etc.

Tape it up for a week in the CA Sun and see if it retrains itself back into the OEM indended postion. The cost is nothing to try except time.

I think however, it may be time for new side targa seals. GC
There are retainers both left and right of the top and on each end of each weather-strip there is also a "C/R" screw that secures the weather-strip. The "blow-out" tabs are part of those retainers.

The top needs to come off the car for an "attempt" to salvage what is there. An attempt to secure with top on the car I believe would be "time wasted". The last thing to consider would be the purchase of new weather-strips UNLESS absolutely necessary. I wouldn't consider these weather-strips "maintenance"!

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Does the window seal against the top of rear pillar seal as it goes up with out the top on? How does it fit at the front pillar seal? If there is a gap at the top, the window may need to be adjusted. Tilted in at the top.
A glass misalignment or failure of the stabilizers to cause alignment problems could have made the situation worse but I would doubt that a glass alignment by itself would correct it.

The "blow-out" tabs are separate parts it seems but here's the retainer and you can use the "zoom" function of eBay to inspect it. There's 10 images in this link - check them all. The link should be for a LH side:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corvette-NOS...792da2&vxp=mtr


I don't mean to "imply" that the OP needs a retainer and I certainly feel he should NOT!

OP - remove the top first and let it rest "upside down" in your "California" sun - all day wouldn't hurt. Then if the weather-strip is NOT torn or damaged use some weather-strip adhesive to re-glue it. Do NOT get carried away with the adhesive, more is NOT better. Secure the weather-strip in the retainer and let it rest in the sun while the adhesive sets. I wouldn't rush the install of the top. While the top is off confirm the glass is running up/down correctly and seems to be "wobble-free" when attempting to shake lightly by hand. Good luck!

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Old 01-17-2014   #7
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Sheesh...I never knew there was so much to know about a weather strip! Let me take the top off, use this as an excuse to go for my first drive around the block topless (gotta enjoy the journey!), put the white top on, and take a detailed look at the weather strip and digest all of the info from everyone. I hope the white top doesn't have any problems...guess I'll find out.
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Sheesh...I never knew there was so much to know about a weather strip! Let me take the top off, use this as an excuse to go for my first drive around the block topless (gotta enjoy the journey!), put the white top on, and take a detailed look at the weather strip and digest all of the info from everyone. I hope the white top doesn't have any problems...guess I'll find out.
Swap the tops with the car on a "level surface" - get some quality silicone "stick type" maybe but not necessary and use the time to do a little maintenance. There's no need to rush it - force "nothing"!

While the transparent top is off you can confirm it's authenticity. If its the original for a two/top option OR the original of a single/top option the last segment of the VIN will be etched into the front of the left side rail very near where the front C/R screw is.

C2L would be a two/top car from production, 24S blue & 64S bronze

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Old 01-17-2014   #9
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Leave the window down just a bit and close the door. Then put the window up all the way. Tada!
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Does the window seal against the top of rear pillar seal as it goes up with out the top on? How does it fit at the front pillar seal? If there is a gap at the top, the window may need to be adjusted. Tilted in at the top.
Doh! I forgot to check this when I had the top off. But I must say, the ride with the top off was awesome! The exhaust rumbles a bit at idle

I was hoping to get lucky with the white top, but it has the problem on both sides. It doesn't overlap nearly to the extent of the clear top, but catches the strip just enough to push it under the glass.
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