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I dont hear or see the logic either
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GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director  91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V |
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Re: secondarries
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None to hear or see.... 
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I hear nothing posted here in this thread and I see nothing posted here in this thread to make the logical and supportable argument that removing the secondaries no longer qualifies a LT5 engine platform to still be anything less than a LT5 engine platform.  Even after a proven and documented failure with pictures no less. Using the earlier presented logic my 380 bottom end also no longer qualifies as an LT5 as too the 415 and 441 stroker motors????What about the top end port and enhanced intake cams?? Same argument I guess The LT5 is still a LT5 no matter how you improve it, modify it..... reguardless. Now the argument is about dropping the LT5 in a different car and Calling it a ZR-1. Which again is illogical and an apples to organges argument. Scott you truely are confused as your smiley suggests.... GC 
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GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V Last edited by GOLDCYLON; 03-27-2013 at 05:26 PM. |
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Re: secondarries
Scott, it "was" you, who sensitive, went on a rant about how cars that had the secondaries removed were "kludges" (your word) and were undocumented messes. Then, you got personal and your posts were so damning that the mods on CF deleted them. That was truly pathetic in itself.
Just because someone mods THEIR own car rather than doing what you think is correct doesn't mean that they are wrong or making their car anything but an LT5 ZR-1. Many, including myself, choose to rip them out. Not because they failed. Yeah, relax........ 
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 SENSITIVITY?? The ONLY one that seems to have an issue with deleting secondaries...IS YOU, Scott. But, the rest of us that have pulled them for various reasons aren't wringing our hands for having done it, or berating anyone who is a purist (as your "tell" indicates) for keeping it an NCRS car. In fact, I'll wager those sans secondaries are all pretty happy to say "good ridance!" So, it appears to me that if there is any "sensitivity" by us, [I]it is being berated again for doing what may well be considered an improvement by those that have done it. Externally she looks stock. Nobody would ever know from the outside that anything was amiss...  Only after the top end is pulled would it become obvious just why keeping the secondaries is moot...  500+ FBI package, sans secondaries... WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE? Have a look at this video of this LT5 assembled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1YFa8ruh8A Personally, I researched opting out of the secondaries for over a year; make it two years before doing it. It is a well thought out procedure, works like a charm as result - with multiple upsides, plenty of people that have done it and like the results, no downsides I'm aware of, and it is a well documented, clean disinstallation with no rough edges: no "kludge". And one of the final tuning points for me was seeing the next generation LT5 that didn't go into production. Guess what? NO SECONDARY RUNNERS! So, enough already with dem "negative waves" K? We got it. You don't like it. But, we're not lesser men because we improved upon the design of the LT5 to our needs/liking. 
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Re: secondarries
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Just saying Is a narrow body 88 with an LT5 in it a ZR-1? Is a 63 with an LT5 in it a ZR-1 ? Is a ZR-1 with a LS9 in it a ZR-1? Is Fastlane's highly modified LT5/ZR-1 with ford parts still a ZR-1 ? Don't really know if there is an answer. Who really cares except NCRS ?
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Re: secondarries
Ummm.....yeah....just sayin'......
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