92 LT5 ecu ignition program and control

[Theg]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

Spark tuning is spark tuning. What’s needed is someone who knows their way around the LT5 calibration. If u r looking for part throttle, then an engine dyno or driving the car around and datalogging is how u get there. There are stock spark
tables to start with.
I use a dyno for WOT tuning and after I have the driveability down first.
Other than the carbs, what else do u plan on modifying?

I dont plan on modifying any internals . Only mods will be removal of the secondaries and pluging injector bosses and other vacuum ports etcetc.
I may look at removing the injector boss material from inside the port . Will look closer at that option once I get a good look at what material would need to be removed . Looking down the ports though I see a fair flow obstruction that may benefit performance if I can smooth them .
Also has custom headers.

[Theg]

Pic of the injector bosses intrusion into the port

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Pic of custom pipes

[XfireZ51]

Originally Posted by Theg

I dont plan on modifying any internals . Only mods will be removal of the secondaries and pluging injector bosses and other vacuum ports etcetc.
I may look at removing the injector boss material from inside the port . Will look closer at that option once I get a good look at what material would need to be removed . Looking down the ports though I see a fair flow obstruction that may benefit performance if I can smooth them .
Also has custom headers.

W stock cams and headers, probably sufficient to use stock ignition map and perhaps add a few degrees.

[Theg]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

W stock cams and headers, probably sufficient to use stock ignition map and perhaps add a few degrees.

Do you think the ignition would still fire normally even if all fuelling side sensors are failing to send data to the ecu ?
Do you know if the knock sensor if left wired to the ecu would continue to help retard ignition if there was a condition of too much advance in the timing .

[XfireZ51]

If there’s knock, then the ECM will retard timing depending on the amount of retard defined in the calibration. Given that the ECM is calculating pulse width to control injectors, doubtful u can use the OEM ECU. A Holley Pro-Jection system may be a viable alternative.

[Theg]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

If there’s knock, then the ECM will retard timing depending on the amount of retard defined in the calibration. Given that the ECM is calculating pulse width to control injectors, doubtful u can use the OEM ECU. A Holley Pro-Jection system may be a viable alternative.

Just a bit confused now . Im unsure if you mean I cant use the stock ecu to run just timing and ignition control when Ive no sensors for fueling returning signals to the ecm .
Basic question is if I removed all injector wiring and map sensors ,TPS, 02 sensors, coolant temp etc etc but left ignition sensors like crank sensor and knock sensor would the ecm still carry out the ignition function when over the 400rpm ?

[XfireZ51]

Ignition is controlled by the ECM and is based on RPM x MAP. Without sensors, u have a bunch of codes. Whether the motor would even start is questionable. It certainly would be in “limp home” mode. What u are describing is using an ignition control system, so that’s what u should use.

[XfireZ51]

One other point about employing carbs sitting on top of the LT5 plenum. The plenum and injector housing was designed as a dry induction system for port fuel injection. Quite a few twists and turns in the journey of air from TB to combustion chamber. Runner length is quite long. I can see quite an issue with fuel coming out of suspension in the induction tract and dumping raw fuel onto the valves. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I don't think its a very workable configuration.

[Theg]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

Ignition is controlled by the ECM and is based on RPM x MAP. Without sensors, u have a bunch of codes. Whether the motor would even start is questionable. It certainly would be in “limp home” mode. What u are describing is using an ignition control system, so that’s what u should use.

Looked into the MSD 6010 again today as a ls coil ignition swap option with crank nose reluctor and trigger .
Does anyone know the lt5 cam sensor trigger and reluctor setup ?
The msd requires a cam signal matching the stock ls1 triggering .
Anyone know if lt5 cam signals match ls1?