Paint care for your Z.

Z Factor,

Thanks for the info. Hopefully someday I will have the opportunity to see a Zaino maintained car to make a determination of how great it is. I was hesitant due to reading about putting many applications and I'm not into doing it more than twice in one session. I remember using Liquid Glass way, way back and I don't remember it leaving a lasting impression on me. I forget what I am using now but it is a German product and I really like it but not sure if my paint could look better.

[Z Factor]

Originally Posted by HAWAIIZR1

Hopefully someday I will have the opportunity to see a Zaino maintained car to make a determination of how great it is. I was hesitant due to reading about putting many applications and I'm not into doing it more than twice in one session.

One of the reasons Zaino cars always look so good is because people pay a premium for it, and therefore follow the directions to the tee. They do all the prep work, which is probably 80% of what makes the paint look great. If you prep a car properly, most any car will look good no matter what you use. That said, Zaino does have one of the best mirror like finishes I've seen. The people that don't like it say it looks like the paint is wrapped in Saran wrap. One friend cant stand the look on his Porsche, but he also loathes wax, so instead he uses Blackfire which he feels gives him the best look of the two. In theory, it adds depth and luster, yet lasts a long time because it is a synthetic polymer. So in reality it all comes down to ones taste.

[Aurora40]

Originally Posted by Z Factor

One of the reasons Zaino cars always look so good is because people pay a premium for it, and therefore follow the directions to the tee. They do all the prep work, which is probably 80% of what makes the paint look great. If you prep a car properly, most any car will look good no matter what you use. That said, Zaino does have one of the best mirror like finishes I've seen. The people that don't like it say it looks like the paint is wrapped in Saran wrap. One friend cant stand the look on his Porsche, but he also loathes wax, so instead he uses Blackfire which he feels gives him the best look of the two. In theory, it adds depth and luster, yet lasts a long time because it is a synthetic polymer. So in reality it all comes down to ones taste.

I'd agree 100%. Looks are very subjective, and can vary on the color/car/etc too. But with prep, any product will look pretty dang good.

With Liquid Glass vs Zaino, though, one difference I'd point out is I *believe* Liquid Glass has some cleaning ability to it, which would make it better to use on a car that isn't prepped as well.

[BBBAD94ZR1]

To each their own, but I would just point out there are people who've used wax for years and never had problems.

Wax expands and contracts with heat too. As does just about any solid or liquid known to man. And wax would have to have one heck of a strong bond to actually hold together under expanding paint and crack it. You'd mentioned once about "breathing". Rather than argue that, I'd point out that an acrylic product like Liquid Glass, or a polymer like Zaino, would also inhibit this "breathing" as they seal the paint.

The whole point of a protective product is to seal the paint. If the paint is protected from oxygen in the air, it will have a much harder time oxidizing. And waxes or sealants help keep environmental contaminents off the paint, at least for a short time until you remove the contaminent. Some also help to reduce the UV that hits the paint.

I would ask what evidence you found that the peelign paint, crows feet, etc were caused by wax, though? How do you know the crows feet weren't from too thick a film of paint, too little flex agent, a body panel that flexs too much, etc? Or the peeling from improper prep? How can you look at failed 10 year old paint and conclusively say what caused it to fail?

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but there are plenty of people (more than 5% of "old timers") who have used waxes for years with no problems. Considering there are several big companies that have made wax products for over 50 years, I'd guess that they'd be out of business if 95% of the detailing population from 1960 and beyond feels they will ruin paint.__________________
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Well Im going to close with this. USE WAX!
Pleace.........
Ray

Here is what I have been using for the past year and love it. I could not remember what it was called initially, but I imagine this is like Zaino (maybe?)

You'll notice it mentions use on BOATS/fiberglass......Don't we have a BOAT engine .

I love it because I use it for everything including the glass and my CCW wheels.

Like someone already said, personal preference and you end up sticking with something that works for you. I don't know if my paint can look any better than it does but I might try Zaino some day if I see one in person and like it.




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