Rule Number 5

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

Holy Crap. I've been invited to join the Dynomite Ribbing List. This is a greater honor than meeting Obama. I realize I set the bar kind of low but I'm really flustered right now so give me a break...

I think Schrade will sign on and maybe Brett and Daryll.
I know Jim will NOT.
Hard to tell if Paul will sign on or Dom (the one who got me to ask the difference between Trolling and Ribbing)

[scottfab]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

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Email, texts and forum responses can be very dangerous unless you're responding to someone you know on a personal level. All the recipient is getting is a one dimensional response. Only words. They can't see expressions or the little smile as your typing. You may be saying something funny that could be read as totally different.
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That's really it in a nut shell isn't it.
It's not just care in typing but care in how you read it.

Controlling what words are taboo is not it. IMHO

If all else fails, just take care in who you respond to at all.
I truly believe if what is "meant" is in the best interest of the car in the
end those who really care about the car will accept it even if they don't agree with it.

[Hog]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

That is excellent and very useful advise. It's amazing how brave some people get when they can respond from 1,000 miles away without fear of getting a mud hole stomped in their ***. I have a perfect example. I was involved in a thread last year when then this JetJock fella I had never talked to or had any dealings with chimed in and to me pretty much laid me out cold. I can't remember what the topic was about now. That shows how important it was. Anyway, man I was hot. So I typed up this response that could've been measured on a Richter scale, saved it, put in on my desktop and walked away.

I'm glad I did.

In a later conversation with David Johnson I happened to bring up this prick Roy and David was like, "No, you just need to meet the guy. He didn't mean anything by it. He's a cool dude. You won't have any problems with him." So, BG 2013 rolls around and I'm taking Gordon's class and low and behold who do I run into but Mr. JetJock himself. We immediately hit it off and I'm proud to call him my friend today. How differently would that totally unnecessary response have played out on the boards? We'd still be going back and forth and it would've cost both of us the opportunity to gain a friendship.

Email, texts and forum responses can be very dangerous unless you're responding to someone you know on a personal level. All the recipient is getting is a one dimensional response. Only words. They can't see expressions or the little smile as your typing. You may be saying something funny that could be read as totally different. I know the people on this forum that I can give a bad time too; Roy being one of them. They know me and can picture me saying what I'm typing. Everyone else get's a different kind of response. And I'm a smart *** Texan at heart so that's not always the easiest thing for me to do!

Thanks.

About your last paragraph, thats the issue about "reading" the typed work, thats all the stimulus you get. Studies I have read state that 85% of communucation is non-verbal. I might type a smart assed remark, but my reader wont see my smile to reinforce that I was joking.

It's amazing how we as humans can communicate. Sometimes i work with people that cant or have issues expressing their thoughs into words "expressive aphasia" (think Mrs Gabrielle Giffords after her frightful injuries-she understand 100% what you have just said and immediatley WANTS to responds, but is unable to in a manner which she wants to, HUGELY frustrating. If someone has issues actually taking in the ouside world, it's known as Receptive Aphasia.

As a Nurse I have caught on pretty quickly to non verbal cues. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know when someone is about to have a "Code Brown" if you dont get them to, pants down and onto a toilet. Where it gets tricky is if someone is unconcious or semi concious and you have to evaluate their pain level. We were taught in school that Pain should be the 5th vital sign Heart Rate, Breaths/minute,Blood Pressure, Temp. and I always ask about pain. "Sir, on a scale of One to ten, with Zero representing Zero and Ten representing the worst pain you have experienced, what number is you pain right now?
Sure, easy peazy for you and I. But do that for a newborn, or a 100 year old, either may or may not be able to respond, or even understand you on a good day.

It is frustrating when trying to convey your thoughts via a keyboard, but all we can do is try our best, and try to have fun doing it.\

Have a great weekend everyone.

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

That is excellent and very useful advise. It's amazing how brave some people get when they can respond from 1,000 miles away without fear of getting a mud hole stomped in their ***. I have a perfect example. I was involved in a thread last year when then this JetJock fella I had never talked to or had any dealings with chimed in and to me pretty much laid me out cold. I can't remember what the topic was about now. That shows how important it was. Anyway, man I was hot. So I typed up this response that could've been measured on a Richter scale, saved it, put in on my desktop and walked away.

I'm glad I did.

In a later conversation with David Johnson I happened to bring up this prick Roy and David was like, "No, you just need to meet the guy. He didn't mean anything by it. He's a cool dude. You won't have any problems with him." So, BG 2013 rolls around and I'm taking Gordon's class and low and behold who do I run into but Mr. JetJock himself. We immediately hit it off and I'm proud to call him my friend today. How differently would that totally unnecessary response have played out on the boards? We'd still be going back and forth and it would've cost both of us the opportunity to gain a friendship.

Email, texts and forum responses can be very dangerous unless you're responding to someone you know on a personal level. All the recipient is getting is a one dimensional response. Only words. They can't see expressions or the little smile as your typing. You may be saying something funny that could be read as totally different. I know the people on this forum that I can give a bad time too; Roy being one of them. They know me and can picture me saying what I'm typing. Everyone else get's a different kind of response. And I'm a smart *** Texan at heart so that's not always the easiest thing for me to do!

Fully Vetted (the perfect illustrative story) and right on the money.....

I will say this....disagreeing has a negative connotation it carries with it which then puts one (the one you disagree with) immediately on the defensive. There are many reasons one might have an opinion but if you present your facts, no one has to defend anything. Seems to me you can offer up some facts letting the one you disagree with jump on your band wagon voluntarily. He/she can then do it your way or continue to do it his/her way which no one has labeled wrong

Begging to disagree is funny. Why should you have to beg or apologize for helping (or not helping) the other person. My "facts" and (what I thought was help) have been ignored many times and in the process I found out there were other facts better than what I presented