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Old 06-08-2017   #11
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Default Re: Starting issue?

Ordered my starter from Jerry today. I will be helping my mechanic take the plenum off tomorrow to get ready for the starter.

Thanks for the tips Jerry.
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Old 06-09-2017   #12
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Speaking of "starting" issues, has anyone encountered the situation where the starter operates but the Bendix sounds as if there is a missing flywheel tooth?
It will happen once, maybe twice in succession. Let sit for a few moments and then it engages. I have also rocked the car a couple of times and the flywheel is engaged.
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Dom, if ever you serviced your starter with a kit off of ebay, there is a good chance the thrust (plunger) pin could be too short!

The pin in the starter rebuild kit I got off ebay was too short by half the width of the bendix gear. Had I used the new armature instead of reusing the stock one, my fear (now and at the time) was it might cause exactly the kind of problem your describing.

IF, when the starter spins, but does NOT engage the FW ring gear, it might just be a bad bendix. But, especially if there is any metal-on-metal shrieking or grinding to go with the starter's free spinning, a damaged ring or pinion gear can't be ruled out until it is inspected (especially when moving the car in gear alleviates the [apparent engagement] problem...really says ring gear to me, FWIW) *

*Inspect that thrust pin and see if it forces the pinion gear to full engagement with the ring gear.
Inspect the entire ring gear for broken or damaged teeth.
replace the bendix
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Old 09-02-2018   #13
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Dom, if ever you serviced your starter with a kit off of ebay, there is a good chance the thrust (plunger) pin could be too short!



The pin in the starter rebuild kit I got off ebay was too short by half the width of the bendix gear. Had I used the new armature instead of reusing the stock one, my fear (now and at the time) was it might cause exactly the kind of problem your describing.



IF, when the starter spins, but does NOT engage the FW ring gear, it might just be a bad bendix. But, especially if there is any metal-on-metal shrieking or grinding to go with the starter's free spinning, a damaged ring or pinion gear can't be ruled out until it is inspected (especially when moving the car in gear alleviates the [apparent engagement] problem...really says ring gear to me, FWIW) *



*Inspect that thrust pin and see if it forces the pinion gear to full engagement with the ring gear.

Inspect the entire ring gear for broken or damaged teeth.

replace the bendix






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