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secondchance · 09-21-2015

Most of you may remember that I had a head gasket failure in April 2013 resulting in 380 mini-stroker build which was completed in June 2014.
Since March 2015 I have been losing coolant again despite multiple attempts at isolating the problem and attempted fixes problem progressively got worse. My drive up to Carlisle resulted in having to have the car trailered back to VA - Thanks, Mark and Dennis!!!

Last Saturday I had my car towed to Dempsey's in Clinton, MD. and pulled the motor with Dempsey, Rich and Charlie.

Started around 9 am and we had the motor out by 3:28. That is with a sit-down lunch of barbequed ribs and chicken and joy rides for Brett - We are getting scary good at this!

We had a special guest, Brett. To make the long story short, Dempsey found out about Brett, an autistic teenager who loves Corvettes, and invited Brett and his parents over to watch what we were doing and joy rides of Brett's choice. I must say, this must have been a very special day for Brett - Dempsey, thanks for having had an opportunity to be a part of Brett's special day!

Private Corvette show for Brett!

Yesterday, Dempsey disassembled the top end. It seems inboard head bolts may have been under torqued resulting in head gasket around #5 cylinder breaking up. I will be taking the heads with gaskets attached to the machine shop that had assembled the short block, discuss what we see and hopefully figure out exactly how and why it had failed.

Once I have both heads shaved we will be re-assembling the motor and drop in the car. I will certainly keep you all posted.

GOLDCYLON · 09-21-2015

May I suggest using the Cometic MLS head headgasket upgrade that Marc Haibeck sells? This is basically LS-1 Technology using an all steel "Reuseable gasket"

Ive been running mine in my 380 for years now with Zero issues. Since your there I strongly suggest and I highly recommend it. GC

http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...d%20gasket.htm

secondchance · 09-21-2015

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Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

May I suggest using the Cometic MLS head headgasket upgrade that Mark Haibeck sells? This is basically LS-1 Technogly using an all steel "Reuseable gasket"

Ive been running mine in my 380 for years now with Zero issues. Since your there I strongly suggest and I highly recommend it. GC

http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...d%20gasket.htm

For sure! I talked to Marc during the Carlisle event. I will be getting a set very soon.

GOLDCYLON · 09-21-2015

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Originally Posted by secondchance

For sure! I talked to Marc during the Carlisle event. I will be getting a set very soon.

Phil (PhllipsLT5) is also using these gaskets after he lost his head gaskets years ago after Marc did a lot of work on the car.

These days its the best way forward. GC

PhillipsLT5 · 09-21-2015

I was a test mule for Marc and years later in HOT AZ, lots of 1/4, 1/2, 1 & 1.5 mile runs, no leaks, only way to go

rkreigh · 09-21-2015

good luck! sounds like you found the root cause and are well on the way to the fix.

I admire the determination and for sure the wazoo guys are unique in their talents.

we are pretty lucky to have this segment of the brotherhood.

as I look at the LS guys the LS9 hg is getting slung on anything regardless of bore (sheesh)

my next build I'd love to try the AES liners, maybe we can talk Phil into it, he seems to want more for that big stroker before he even gets the rings seated

the LT5 stroker is just way too much fun.

secondchance · 09-21-2015

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Originally Posted by rkreigh

good luck! sounds like you found the root cause and are well on the way to the fix.

I admire the determination and for sure the wazoo guys are unique in their talents.

we are pretty lucky to have this segment of the brotherhood.

as I look at the LS guys the LS9 hg is getting slung on anything regardless of bore (sheesh)

my next build I'd love to try the AES liners, maybe we can talk Phil into it, he seems to want more for that big stroker before he even gets the rings seated

the LT5 stroker is just way too much fun.

Absolutely Ron. We have some of the best talents locally. Also, WAZOO gang are always so helpful and happy to pitch in. Had it not been for the WAZOO gang, I would have given up my Z a long time ago. Just wouldn't have been able to afford necessary refurbishing let alone all mods.

dredgeguy · 09-22-2015

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Originally Posted by secondchance

Absolutely Ron. We have some of the best talents locally. Also, WAZOO gang are always so helpful and happy to pitch in. Had it not been for the WAZOO gang, I would have given up my Z a long time ago. Just wouldn't have been able to afford necessary refurbishing let alone all mods.

That my man is the TRUTH! Cannot imagine having to take the Z to the local GM dealer..................

LGAFF · 09-22-2015

"We had a special guest, Brett. To make the long story short, Dempsey found out about Brett, an autistic teenager who loves Corvettes, and invited Brett and his parents over to watch what we were doing and joy rides of Brett's choice. I must say, this must have been a very special day for Brett - Dempsey, thanks for having had an opportunity to be a part of Brett's special day!"

This is pretty cool, my daughter has autism, and something like this means alot....very nice of you guys to do this!

nelson007 · 09-22-2015

Charlie,
What are those blue things on your hands?
Nelson

09-21-2015	#1
secondchance Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: McLean, VA Posts: 3,703	Second time for Secondchance Most of you may remember that I had a head gasket failure in April 2013 resulting in 380 mini-stroker build which was completed in June 2014. Since March 2015 I have been losing coolant again despite multiple attempts at isolating the problem and attempted fixes problem progressively got worse. My drive up to Carlisle resulted in having to have the car trailered back to VA - Thanks, Mark and Dennis!!! Last Saturday I had my car towed to Dempsey's in Clinton, MD. and pulled the motor with Dempsey, Rich and Charlie. Started around 9 am and we had the motor out by 3:28. That is with a sit-down lunch of barbequed ribs and chicken and joy rides for Brett - We are getting scary good at this! We had a special guest, Brett. To make the long story short, Dempsey found out about Brett, an autistic teenager who loves Corvettes, and invited Brett and his parents over to watch what we were doing and joy rides of Brett's choice. I must say, this must have been a very special day for Brett - Dempsey, thanks for having had an opportunity to be a part of Brett's special day! Private Corvette show for Brett! Yesterday, Dempsey disassembled the top end. It seems inboard head bolts may have been under torqued resulting in head gasket around #5 cylinder breaking up. I will be taking the heads with gaskets attached to the machine shop that had assembled the short block, discuss what we see and hopefully figure out exactly how and why it had failed. Once I have both heads shaved we will be re-assembling the motor and drop in the car. I will certainly keep you all posted.

09-21-2015	#2
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,153	Re: Second time for Secondchance May I suggest using the Cometic MLS head headgasket upgrade that Marc Haibeck sells? This is basically LS-1 Technology using an all steel "Reuseable gasket" Ive been running mine in my 380 for years now with Zero issues. Since your there I strongly suggest and I highly recommend it. GC http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...d%20gasket.htm __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V Last edited by GOLDCYLON; 09-21-2015 at 04:50 PM.

09-21-2015	#6
rkreigh Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alex VA Posts: 1,087	Re: Second time for Secondchance good luck! sounds like you found the root cause and are well on the way to the fix. I admire the determination and for sure the wazoo guys are unique in their talents. we are pretty lucky to have this segment of the brotherhood. as I look at the LS guys the LS9 hg is getting slung on anything regardless of bore (sheesh) my next build I'd love to try the AES liners, maybe we can talk Phil into it, he seems to want more for that big stroker before he even gets the rings seated the LT5 stroker is just way too much fun. __________________ 95 390 LPE ZR1 (505 rwhp) LSV = Lingenfelter Super Vette Twin Turbo 2003 Z06 (800 RWHP)

09-22-2015	#9
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,191	Re: Second time for Secondchance "We had a special guest, Brett. To make the long story short, Dempsey found out about Brett, an autistic teenager who loves Corvettes, and invited Brett and his parents over to watch what we were doing and joy rides of Brett's choice. I must say, this must have been a very special day for Brett - Dempsey, thanks for having had an opportunity to be a part of Brett's special day!" This is pretty cool, my daughter has autism, and something like this means alot....very nice of you guys to do this! __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

09-22-2015	#10
nelson007 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Westminster, Md. Posts: 436	Re: Second time for Secondchance Charlie, What are those blue things on your hands? Nelson __________________ WAZOO MEMBER 1993 #124 Ruby 1994 #??? Red/Black 1995 #061 Black/Red 2012 ZR1 Preproduction

09-21-2015	#5
PhillipsLT5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,450	Re: Second time for Secondchance I was a test mule for Marc and years later in HOT AZ, lots of 1/4, 1/2, 1 & 1.5 mile runs, no leaks, only way to go