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Old 05-01-2012   #1
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Default Re: Engine won't turn over when warm

This may sound stupid, but this is what happened to me. I have only heard guys complaining that the car will not start with a bad switch. My car starts all the time, however, the last time I took it in for an oil change the mechanic turned the key over with the car IN GEAR without depressing the clutch and the car lurched forward. He said I had a bad safety switch. I always start the car in neutral and depress the clutch. I assume the switch is to prevent the car from starting in gear. Mine still starts even in gear if you depress the clutch or not. So, do I have a bad switch? Like I said, stupid question.
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This may sound stupid, but this is what happened to me. I have only heard guys complaining that the car will not start with a bad switch. My car starts all the time, however, the last time I took it in for an oil change the mechanic turned the key over with the car IN GEAR without depressing the clutch and the car lurched forward. He said I had a bad safety switch. I always start the car in neutral and depress the clutch. I assume the switch is to prevent the car from starting in gear. Mine still starts even in gear if you depress the clutch or not. So, do I have a bad switch? Like I said, stupid question.
Not at all a stupid question. In fact timely.
Sounds like someone bypassed that safety device.
Hard to know who would be liable if someone got hurt when the
mechanic turned the key.
Another reason to leave safety equipment in place and functioning.
As for me, I leave air bags working and the clutch switch alone.
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99% of all the manual cars Ive driven if you try to start the car in gear the car will lurch forward. There is no liability issue... Just a mechanic who has no business working on your car. If you start any manual car it could be in netual with your foot on the brake for safety. You can have the clutch enganged or not its a matter of choice. I perfer to have my clutch depressed with the car in netural because thats how I learn to drive a standard. The clutch is always depressed unless you are planning on moving or remaining in neutral

Equating an Airbag to a clutch switch when one of the pair strands your car is simply not worth the debate. Your mileage may vary
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99% of all the manual cars Ive driven if you try to start the car in gear the car will lurch forward. There is no liability issue... Just a mechanic who has no business working on your car. If you start any manual car it could be in netual with your foot on the brake for safety. You can have the clutch enganged or not its a matter of choice. I perfer to have my clutch depressed with the car in netural because thats how I learn to drive a standard. The clutch is always depressed unless you are planning on moving or remaining in neutral

Equating an Airbag to a clutch switch when one of the pair strands your car is simply not worth the debate. Your mileage may vary
The mechanic will not touch the car again. He was recommended by another (non ZR-1) corvette owner.
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