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Old 05-28-2013   #1
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I've read though this three times now. It's hard to know where to begin. It would seem there could be at least 5 different threads started from the different topics you've brought up.
The one overall thing I did pickup on is that many systems have been altered (modified). Because of that I hesitate to comment or suggest things.

The one thing I can say is, anytime you pull out the fuel pumps and attach them to the battery you damage them. They are designed to be run while submerged. Gasoline becomes the lubricant for the bearing surfaces as well as keeping the contacts from arcing in the presents of oxygen. Anytime the pumps are run while not submerged you damage them. If not totally then partially such that you age them prematurely big time.
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Old 05-29-2013   #2
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Thanks, Scott. I only ran the pumps for a second just to see IF they ran, which they did. I know better than to run the pumps dry. They had NOT been running about half the time since pulling out of storage.
A long time ago, ( I bought this car new) I had ran a wire from the solenoid to the battery area to hot start it when the key would not. When it first died recently, it would crank, but not run.
AFTER I had discovered that the starter was lying in bilge, from the drip out of the broken PCV hose, and the water from a wash job 2 weeks ago, I tapped that hot wire, and just sparks, no cranky. The valley drain hole was plugged with this oily goo. I then ANGLE drilled out the drain hole to 7/16" for more of a straight drain.
The brush plate in the starter had rusted and the brushes barely contacting. I replaced that, and today, after installing the starter, I also installed new MSD coils. RE- assembled everything, and VOILA! IT STARTED. It now shreds the tires, just like in the days of old.
I think the shorted starter had fried all the relays. The car had been in storage for 5 years. The original injectors, at 250,000 miles were just giving problems. One had stuck OPEN hosing down #3 plug. I have not installed the Ford starter relay yet, but I will soon.
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Old 05-29-2013   #3
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Thanks, Scott. I only ran the pumps for a second just to see IF they ran, which they did. I know better than to run the pumps dry. They had NOT been running about half the time since pulling out of storage.
A long time ago, ( I bought this car new) I had ran a wire from the solenoid to the battery area to hot start it when the key would not. When it first died recently, it would crank, but not run.
AFTER I had discovered that the starter was lying in bilge, from the drip out of the broken PCV hose, and the water from a wash job 2 weeks ago, I tapped that hot wire, and just sparks, no cranky. The valley drain hole was plugged with this oily goo. I then ANGLE drilled out the drain hole to 7/16" for more of a straight drain.
The brush plate in the starter had rusted and the brushes barely contacting. I replaced that, and today, after installing the starter, I also installed new MSD coils. RE- assembled everything, and VOILA! IT STARTED. It now shreds the tires, just like in the days of old.
I think the shorted starter had fried all the relays. The car had been in storage for 5 years. The original injectors, at 250,000 miles were just giving problems. One had stuck OPEN hosing down #3 plug. I have not installed the Ford starter relay yet, but I will soon.
Probably hosing down the cylinder too; maybe a squeeze check is in order for that hole? How many miles with the injector stuck???
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Old 05-30-2013   #4
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Thanks, Scott
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, and today, after installing the starter, I also installed new MSD coils. RE- assembled everything, and VOILA! IT STARTED. It now shreds the tires, just like in the days of old.
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Good to hear !!!
It's always good to hear another ZR-1 is on the road.=D>
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