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Tripler · 10-05-2019

Congrats on the car . Like the others have mentioned , you will get lots of help with any issues on your new beast right here on this forum .
Again Congrats

Mike

Jim Stanley · 10-07-2019

After taking my 90 to a couple of local shops, I finally shipped it to Marc Haibeck, ZR-1 Specialist, bear Chicago. The shipping cost pales in comparison to the money you will spend at other well meaning but inexperienced shops. I had many of your issues and he quickly and fixed them at reasonable rates. When you get it back, all you have to do is drive it!

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abull1499 · 10-14-2019

So, had a "no start" last night. I read a lot on the forums and it looks like the best next step is clutch/starter relay. The VATS was not an issue as the security light was not flashing while I had the key in start position.

Here was series of events yesterday:

1. Started car up 3 times without going more than a few feet (showing it off to neighbors). No issues there.

2. Washed the car.

3. Fired it up to go out to dinner 1.5 miles away. No issues. Came out 1 hour later. No start, no click, not cranking, and all lights working and on. No security light flashing while in start position. Battery is only 10 months old.

4. Jump started the car with jumper cables. Fired up no problem.

My question is, if it was the starter switch/clutch switch, would the car still have started with a jump start?

Sending the car to Haibeck in a few weeks, but wanted everyone's thoughts.

Andrew

Karl · 10-14-2019

Check to make sure the floor mat does not roll up and block the clutch pedal. That happened to me when I got my first Z.

abull1499 · 10-14-2019

Yeah, I did check that. Everything was as it should be. Plus, it started right up after I put cables on the battery and jumped it.

SBAquaLT5 · 10-14-2019

You are on the right path.. Unless your clutch switch is intermittent, it would not have made a difference to jump.(been there) If you can go in the garage and turn the car on right now it's very unlikely the switch.

Lights didn't dim when you tried to crank it?

Something might be getting heat soaked... You could start it, drive it around and get it warm, then park it again and try again in an hour.

Also, some lead acid batteries that I have purchased recently don't seem to last as long. Manufacturing has changed.

TX '90 ZR1 · 10-14-2019

I know you wouldn't think the battery could be bad, but start at the source.
Do a load test on the battery. Replace if under spec.
Clean battery terminals. Pay special attention to the terminal bolts. Take them out of the rubber insulator and give them a good cleaning, or better yet, replace them with new if they show any corrosion. Be sure and clean the contact areas inside the insulator too.
These cars are very finicky about low voltage/amperage.
I think if you were able to boost start the car, the above should rectify the issue.

Karl · 10-14-2019

If it is the battery get an AGM style battery. Unless you want to stay original for ncrs it is an easy upgrade.

Paul Workman · 10-15-2019

When the clutch safety switch OR the starter solenoid contacts begin to fail, they're first intermittent. Both of these and info on some additional items can be found on Marc Haibeck's ZR-1 Specialists web site under the "No Start" heading. There Marc lists a number of easy tests that can be done to identify "zsckly" what is up!

lfalzarano · 10-15-2019

In a no start condition, jumper cables don’t work from my experience. What is the CCA of 10 month old battery?

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10-05-2019	#31
Tripler Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 716	Re: Bought One Congrats on the car . Like the others have mentioned , you will get lots of help with any issues on your new beast right here on this forum . Again Congrats Mike

10-07-2019	#32
Jim Stanley Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Missouri Posts: 46	Re: Bought One After taking my 90 to a couple of local shops, I finally shipped it to Marc Haibeck, ZR-1 Specialist, bear Chicago. The shipping cost pales in comparison to the money you will spend at other well meaning but inexperienced shops. I had many of your issues and he quickly and fixed them at reasonable rates. When you get it back, all you have to do is drive it! Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry

10-14-2019	#33
abull1499 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Boston Posts: 29	Re: Bought One So, had a "no start" last night. I read a lot on the forums and it looks like the best next step is clutch/starter relay. The VATS was not an issue as the security light was not flashing while I had the key in start position. Here was series of events yesterday: 1. Started car up 3 times without going more than a few feet (showing it off to neighbors). No issues there. 2. Washed the car. 3. Fired it up to go out to dinner 1.5 miles away. No issues. Came out 1 hour later. No start, no click, not cranking, and all lights working and on. No security light flashing while in start position. Battery is only 10 months old. 4. Jump started the car with jumper cables. Fired up no problem. My question is, if it was the starter switch/clutch switch, would the car still have started with a jump start? Sending the car to Haibeck in a few weeks, but wanted everyone's thoughts. Andrew

10-14-2019	#34
Karl Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 979	Re: Bought One Check to make sure the floor mat does not roll up and block the clutch pedal. That happened to me when I got my first Z. __________________ 1993 ZR-1 #211 Yellow On Beige Beast #2 1992 ZR-1 #427 Black On Black Sold 1985 L98 Blue On Blue Sold

10-14-2019	#35
abull1499 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Boston Posts: 29	Re: Bought One Yeah, I did check that. Everything was as it should be. Plus, it started right up after I put cables on the battery and jumped it.

10-14-2019	#36
SBAquaLT5 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Santa Barbara CA Posts: 51	Re: Bought One You are on the right path.. Unless your clutch switch is intermittent, it would not have made a difference to jump.(been there) If you can go in the garage and turn the car on right now it's very unlikely the switch. Lights didn't dim when you tried to crank it? Something might be getting heat soaked... You could start it, drive it around and get it warm, then park it again and try again in an hour. Also, some lead acid batteries that I have purchased recently don't seem to last as long. Manufacturing has changed. __________________ 1993 Bright Aqua Metallic # 027

10-14-2019	#37
TX '90 ZR1 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: TX Posts: 2,009	Re: Bought One I know you wouldn't think the battery could be bad, but start at the source. Do a load test on the battery. Replace if under spec. Clean battery terminals. Pay special attention to the terminal bolts. Take them out of the rubber insulator and give them a good cleaning, or better yet, replace them with new if they show any corrosion. Be sure and clean the contact areas inside the insulator too. These cars are very finicky about low voltage/amperage. I think if you were able to boost start the car, the above should rectify the issue. __________________ Kenny 1990 #442

10-14-2019	#38
Karl Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 979	Re: Bought One If it is the battery get an AGM style battery. Unless you want to stay original for ncrs it is an easy upgrade. __________________ 1993 ZR-1 #211 Yellow On Beige Beast #2 1992 ZR-1 #427 Black On Black Sold 1985 L98 Blue On Blue Sold

10-15-2019	#39
Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,493	Re: Bought One When the clutch safety switch OR the starter solenoid contacts begin to fail, they're first intermittent. Both of these and info on some additional items can be found on Marc Haibeck's ZR-1 Specialists web site under the "No Start" heading. There Marc lists a number of easy tests that can be done to identify "zsckly" what is up! __________________ Good carz, good food, good friendz = the best of timez! 90 #1202 "FBI" top end ported & relieved Cam timing by "Pete the Greek" Sans secondaries Chip & dyno tuning by Haibeck Automotive SW headers, X-pipe, MF muffs Former Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry Last edited by Paul Workman; 10-15-2019 at 07:22 AM.

10-15-2019	#40
lfalzarano Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Clayton, North Carolina Posts: 1,133	Re: Bought One In a no start condition, jumper cables don’t work from my experience. What is the CCA of 10 month old battery? Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry __________________ Lou[COLOR="Red"][B][SIZE="4"][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]