First days driving depression - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

xxxscimitarxxx · 07-14-2008

Hi to All

well my 90 ZR1 arrived in UK a couple of weeks ago and l went to collect....

typically with any car going US to UK the battery was dead, meaning deceased...this happens even if the battery is new as shipping handlers find mysterious ways to kill batteries in transit

we got him jump started tho and all was well, though didnt stop the engine for the whole 120 mile trip back

the drive was faultless tho nowhere to stretch his legs as this is UK and even freeways at mid day are like rush hour.....what was noted was how lazy the LT5 is .....bout 70mph and 1700 rpm in 6th.....casually overtake anything in 5th....really overtake anything in 4th....totally blow them away in 3rd

couple of faults ....LTPWS....ok no real worries

...old tyres....need replacing

service ride control came on

Ok l will sort that out....but Q.....can you change ride settings while on the move....or did l screw it up by doing so

So......happily got home...stopped car....would not turn over when tried to restart.....

took battery off and put on charger.....got hot....sides of battery expanded.....messy looking cells......so got another battery....but had to leave abroad before it arrived so left son to fit it

called him and he said it wouldnt start

Ok he didnt know about the cute US car trick of needing to put foot down on clutch

now l dont know if hes been back to try again.....lm hoping that was all it was.....maybe know today.....but with my luck that wont be it

so as he left it....all the gauges light up but no turn over...not even a click

So.....could someone help me with a dummys top 10 guide to "it wont start" issues......starting with dummest and finishing with not so dum

my sons bright but 16 and looking at a car that hes never worked on before

HELP

tomtom72 · 07-14-2008

I know we have a few threads on the dreaded "no-start" here and over at the net registry site in the maintenance section....I believe "common issues" and "how to" ...I think if I remember correctly.

However, welcome

on the new toy!

If the clutch pedal was not depressed the starter will not activate, but the DIC will light up all the lights. That is probably all that was preventing the start up, provided the replacement battery was the correct CCA rating and fully charged. I can't see what could have gone wrong from jumping her to give any issues at subsequent start-up's....hopefully it is just that the clutch pedal needs to be down for a start-up.

Tom

xxxscimitarxxx · 07-14-2008

Thanks for that....lm hoping clutch down is all it is.....will call today and find out

dont think it can be starter, as it managed to jump when l collected it. Dont know where the clutch switch is yet or how to by pass it if its that fault. Dont think it could fail between collecting it and failing to start, but you never know

jonszr1 · 07-14-2008

did you get a factory service manual with the car? if not i would get one , they sure help finding the problems and answers . you can use the searxh here for threads to help also . no worries its proably something simple.

xxxscimitarxxx · 07-14-2008

yep...l got the all manuals before l even got the car but l will need to take a week off work to read them....hoping its easy as you say....one thing seems for sure is that you can spend as much time reading about ZR1 maintenace and repairs as you can driving them....probably more

jonszr1 · 07-14-2008

i wish i was good enough on these things to be able to post a link for you. one way to tell if your clutch switch is working is turn it to start and watch the volts gauge as you push the clutch in and out if there is no change then bingo thats the offending angel. hope this helps a little

RICHARD TILL · 07-14-2008

XXXSCIMITARXXX, You CAN change the ride settings while on the move. Does`nt hurt a thing.

Paul Workman · 07-15-2008

Congratz on the Z!!

As for "service ride control"... I'll see why mine came on for the first time ever, and we'll compare notes. It's prolly a connection or some such simple thing (I hope!). However, you can switch between modes "on the fly" - really cool feature!!

Welcome to the club! When ya get some time, how 'bout some pics of your new toy with some of that English countryside in the background??

P.

ZR1Vette · 07-15-2008

Another welcome to the world of ZR-1s... really special cars!

Since we are trouble shooting... could also be the battery connections...if cables are a bit loose indicator lights can light up but not sufficient for the amp draw down when trying to start... also does your car have one of those battery cable quick disconnects... those things can be trouble from the get go

Hope whatever is the issue it is easily corrected

xxxscimitarxxx · 07-16-2008

Thanks again for responses guys

verdict still out as my son hasnt tried to start it yet....too busy chasing skirt and on line chats

will definately post the cause of ride control service light when l find it

will have a photoshoot of the back roads in Essex next time lm back......l really wish l had a job in the UK....I get to drive my cars a few hours every few months

....but l know they are there.

07-14-2008	#1
xxxscimitarxxx Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 219	First days driving depression Hi to All well my 90 ZR1 arrived in UK a couple of weeks ago and l went to collect.... typically with any car going US to UK the battery was dead, meaning deceased...this happens even if the battery is new as shipping handlers find mysterious ways to kill batteries in transit we got him jump started tho and all was well, though didnt stop the engine for the whole 120 mile trip back the drive was faultless tho nowhere to stretch his legs as this is UK and even freeways at mid day are like rush hour.....what was noted was how lazy the LT5 is .....bout 70mph and 1700 rpm in 6th.....casually overtake anything in 5th....really overtake anything in 4th....totally blow them away in 3rd couple of faults ....LTPWS....ok no real worries ...old tyres....need replacing service ride control came on Ok l will sort that out....but Q.....can you change ride settings while on the move....or did l screw it up by doing so So......happily got home...stopped car....would not turn over when tried to restart..... took battery off and put on charger.....got hot....sides of battery expanded.....messy looking cells......so got another battery....but had to leave abroad before it arrived so left son to fit it called him and he said it wouldnt start Ok he didnt know about the cute US car trick of needing to put foot down on clutch now l dont know if hes been back to try again.....lm hoping that was all it was.....maybe know today.....but with my luck that wont be it so as he left it....all the gauges light up but no turn over...not even a click So.....could someone help me with a dummys top 10 guide to "it wont start" issues......starting with dummest and finishing with not so dum my sons bright but 16 and looking at a car that hes never worked on before HELP

07-14-2008	#2
tomtom72 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA Posts: 4,609	Re: First days driving depression I know we have a few threads on the dreaded "no-start" here and over at the net registry site in the maintenance section....I believe "common issues" and "how to" ...I think if I remember correctly. However, welcome on the new toy! If the clutch pedal was not depressed the starter will not activate, but the DIC will light up all the lights. That is probably all that was preventing the start up, provided the replacement battery was the correct CCA rating and fully charged. I can't see what could have gone wrong from jumping her to give any issues at subsequent start-up's....hopefully it is just that the clutch pedal needs to be down for a start-up. Tom __________________ 1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member

07-14-2008	#3
xxxscimitarxxx Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 219	Re: First days driving depression Thanks for that....lm hoping clutch down is all it is.....will call today and find out dont think it can be starter, as it managed to jump when l collected it. Dont know where the clutch switch is yet or how to by pass it if its that fault. Dont think it could fail between collecting it and failing to start, but you never know

07-14-2008	#4
jonszr1 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: lone pine and mammoth lakes Posts: 1,406	Re: First days driving depression did you get a factory service manual with the car? if not i would get one , they sure help finding the problems and answers . you can use the searxh here for threads to help also . no worries its proably something simple.

07-14-2008	#5
xxxscimitarxxx Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 219	Re: First days driving depression yep...l got the all manuals before l even got the car but l will need to take a week off work to read them....hoping its easy as you say....one thing seems for sure is that you can spend as much time reading about ZR1 maintenace and repairs as you can driving them....probably more

07-14-2008	#7
RICHARD TILL Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Iuka, Mississippi 38852 Posts: 756	Re: First days driving depression XXXSCIMITARXXX, You CAN change the ride settings while on the move. Does`nt hurt a thing.

07-15-2008	#8
Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,466	Re: First days driving depression Congratz on the Z!! As for "service ride control"... I'll see why mine came on for the first time ever, and we'll compare notes. It's prolly a connection or some such simple thing (I hope!). However, you can switch between modes "on the fly" - really cool feature!! Welcome to the club! When ya get some time, how 'bout some pics of your new toy with some of that English countryside in the background?? P.

07-15-2008	#9
ZR1Vette Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Reston, Virginia Posts: 930	Re: First days driving depression Another welcome to the world of ZR-1s... really special cars! Since we are trouble shooting... could also be the battery connections...if cables are a bit loose indicator lights can light up but not sufficient for the amp draw down when trying to start... also does your car have one of those battery cable quick disconnects... those things can be trouble from the get go Hope whatever is the issue it is easily corrected

07-16-2008	#10
xxxscimitarxxx Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 219	Re: First days driving depression Thanks again for responses guys verdict still out as my son hasnt tried to start it yet....too busy chasing skirt and on line chats will definately post the cause of ride control service light when l find it will have a photoshoot of the back roads in Essex next time lm back......l really wish l had a job in the UK....I get to drive my cars a few hours every few months ....but l know they are there.