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-=Jeff=- · 05-07-2009

Figures, fix one thing, another breaks..

Car will not start (push starts in 2nd though)

I was checking my oil issue tonight ( which is mostly fixed) anyway, I shut the car off and started it a couple times, after driving and stopping, I stopped again and then no start. Not Security light on or flashing while key is in start position and I here the relay under dash click. This happened to me last year in June once, on the Saturday of Bloomington Gold. has been working fine since that day until today.. doing the same thing

here is how the starting circuit is set-up:

After the Clutch pedal I changed it and added a relay.. the relay energizes from the clutch pedal to ground, I then have 12v going to that new relay then to the starter solenoid ( did that in Nov of 2007)

last year in June I made a VATS bypass thinking that was it.

Now when I bought the car in July of 2007 the PO had soaked the motor with water and the starter so it would not start. i am still using that starter. I am thinking I should just buy a new starter but wanted to get other opinions.. everything leads me to the starter but I will check voltage on the relay going to the Starter solenoid to be sure there is 12v.. if there is, then I am guessing a starter is in order

there is a rebuilt on eBay for $75 or new from Partsladi for $175.. I am guessing PL is the better deal

Kb7tif · 05-07-2009

Well On my 92 there is a new starter in there. Every once in a while I turn the key and nothing, So what i do is turn the key all the way off and try again cranks right up, only does this when hot..

-=Jeff=- · 05-07-2009

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Originally Posted by Kb7tif

Well On my 92 there is a new starter in there. Every once in a while I turn the key and nothing, So what i do is turn the key all the way off and try again cranks right up, only does this when hot..

hmm..

when mine happened last year.. got home it restarted right a way.. tonight no such luck

GOLDCYLON · 05-07-2009

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Originally Posted by -=Jeff=-

Figures, fix one thing, another breaks..

Car will not start (push starts in 2nd though)

I was checking my oil issue tonight ( which is mostly fixed) anyway, I shut the car off and started it a couple times, after driving and stopping, I stopped again and then no start. Not Security light on or flashing while key is in start position and I here the relay under dash click. This happened to me last year in June once, on the Saturday of Bloomington Gold. has been working fine since that day until today.. doing the same thing

here is how the starting circuit is set-up:

After the Clutch pedal I changed it and added a relay.. the relay energizes from the clutch pedal to ground, I then have 12v going to that new relay then to the starter solenoid ( did that in Nov of 2007)

last year in June I made a VATS bypass thinking that was it.

Now when I bought the car in July of 2007 the PO had soaked the motor with water and the starter so it would not start. i am still using that starter. I am thinking I should just buy a new starter but wanted to get other opinions.. everything leads me to the starter but I will check voltage on the relay going to the Starter solenoid to be sure there is 12v.. if there is, then I am guessing a starter is in order

there is a rebuilt on eBay for $75 or new from Partsladi for $175.. I am guessing PL is the better deal

If your comfortable with Plenium pulls which I think you are Jeff Id suggest the rebuilt

LGAFF · 05-07-2009

My no start was the starter easy fix...

-=Jeff=- · 05-07-2009

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Originally Posted by LGAFF

My no start was the starter easy fix...

Right.. what were the symptoms? meaning no solenoid click? or solenoid click.. etc

and I am guessing it is usually the solenoid not the starter motor itself right?

LGAFF · 05-07-2009

Dead, nothing..no click....everyone told me it was the clutch pedal safety switch.

LGAFF · 05-07-2009

If it makes you feel better the trans went out on the SHO today so I will be $1300 poorer next week....best part is I it totally croaked as I pulled into the parking lot at work in Freeport, Il(BFE)

So I thought, get a rental.......errrrr.....no rental cars available in the entire town.....wife drove 160miles round trip to pick me up.

-=Jeff=- · 05-07-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGAFF

If it makes you feel better the trans went out on the SHO today so I will be $1300 poorer next week....best part is I it totally croaked as I pulled into the parking lot at work in Freeport, Il(BFE)

So I thought, get a rental.......errrrr.....no rental cars available in the entire town.....wife drove 160miles round trip to pick me up.

ouch

yeah my clutch switch is bypassed PO did that.

oddly enough went out a short bit ago and it started right up

GOLDCYLON · 05-07-2009

Hmm Jeff since you bypassed Vats as well as bypassed the clutch switch you may be in the market for that brass rod thats been popping up on Ebay. Id still get the rebuilt. GC

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-=Jeff=- Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 7,152	Not starting>> Figures, fix one thing, another breaks.. Car will not start (push starts in 2nd though) I was checking my oil issue tonight ( which is mostly fixed) anyway, I shut the car off and started it a couple times, after driving and stopping, I stopped again and then no start. Not Security light on or flashing while key is in start position and I here the relay under dash click. This happened to me last year in June once, on the Saturday of Bloomington Gold. has been working fine since that day until today.. doing the same thing here is how the starting circuit is set-up: After the Clutch pedal I changed it and added a relay.. the relay energizes from the clutch pedal to ground, I then have 12v going to that new relay then to the starter solenoid ( did that in Nov of 2007) last year in June I made a VATS bypass thinking that was it. Now when I bought the car in July of 2007 the PO had soaked the motor with water and the starter so it would not start. i am still using that starter. I am thinking I should just buy a new starter but wanted to get other opinions.. everything leads me to the starter but I will check voltage on the relay going to the Starter solenoid to be sure there is 12v.. if there is, then I am guessing a starter is in order there is a rebuilt on eBay for $75 or new from Partsladi for $175.. I am guessing PL is the better deal __________________ 1990 Corvette ZR-1 #1051 Watson Headers (2" Primary) - Flowmaster Cats - Borla Catback Late Model IH - Plenum Coilovers - 4.10s Custom Interior NCM Lifetime Member #978

05-07-2009	#2
Kb7tif Join Date: May 2009 Location: S Nevada Posts: 352	Re: Not starting>> Well On my 92 there is a new starter in there. Every once in a while I turn the key and nothing, So what i do is turn the key all the way off and try again cranks right up, only does this when hot.. __________________ 1995 Convertible Supercharged Auto 1974 454 550hp (avatar car) On the blocks- -Scharger install ! 1992-Zr-1 Sold. Watson Headers Ported Plenum, Housings Random tech cats Fidanza Flywheel Chipped, Relocated Mat Woods 165 stat Borlas, Straights 1996 Lt4 Sold 1994 Lt1 Sold 2004 Z06 Sold AKA** Illenema

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LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Not starting>> My no start was the starter easy fix... __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

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LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Not starting>> Dead, nothing..no click....everyone told me it was the clutch pedal safety switch. __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

05-07-2009	#8
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Not starting>> If it makes you feel better the trans went out on the SHO today so I will be $1300 poorer next week....best part is I it totally croaked as I pulled into the parking lot at work in Freeport, Il(BFE) So I thought, get a rental.......errrrr.....no rental cars available in the entire town.....wife drove 160miles round trip to pick me up. __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

05-07-2009	#10
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,153	Re: Not starting>> Hmm Jeff since you bypassed Vats as well as bypassed the clutch switch you may be in the market for that brass rod thats been popping up on Ebay. Id still get the rebuilt. GC __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V